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Topic: Greco-Turkish music & dance Posted: 07-Jan-2007 at 12:38 |
Now that's fun, there's nothing like a good air shooting but only for people who know how to use one. I'm tired of the critics, they watn to stop everything
This Garadenizli I know told me that he and his uncles sometimes go to the highest moutain top and shoot their guns into the air just to hear the echo from the next mountains. Is there such a tradition?
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Posted: 07-Jan-2007 at 11:03 |
AK-47? Good! It is time to learn greek langauge. do cretans have different dialect?
It looks like that they know how to have fun.
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Posted: 06-Jan-2007 at 19:13 |
Originally posted by DayI
Do you call that music?
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Originally posted by konstantinius
They're using AK-47's now on Crete? For real?
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No kidding! When it comes to guns, Cretans are looking for the best.
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Posted: 06-Jan-2007 at 18:17 |
Originally posted by Antioxos
Also in the Greek country (not in the cities) they shoot in the air during the weddings the only thing is changing is the gun .In Crete are using kalasnikof in the other areas just simple shotguns.
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They're using AK-47's now on Crete? For real?
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Posted: 06-Jan-2007 at 18:06 |
I love sad Black Sea songs:
Dertliyim kederliyim:
Gelevera Deresi:
Cerrahpaşa:
Denizde Kararti var:
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Posted: 06-Jan-2007 at 16:53 |
Also in the Greek country (not in the cities) they shoot in the air during the weddings the only thing is changing is the gun .In Crete are using kalasnikof in the other areas just simple shotguns.
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Posted: 06-Jan-2007 at 16:33 |
Do you call that music?
isnt it?But I think teyze is a little new at this music. He should make more practice. This is a difficult instrument.
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Posted: 06-Jan-2007 at 16:30 |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8dKGjNnHco&mode=related&search=
This guy looks like absolutely my grandfather. I am shocked hare(If I remember meaning of this word true.(
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Posted: 06-Jan-2007 at 16:29 |
Do you call that music? It's not that strange to me, we do fire guns at weddings only. I did this year on my nephews wedding
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Posted: 06-Jan-2007 at 16:03 |
yes they do have the same music and the same dance but they dont shoot in the air .they do shoot in the air while they are dancing in the islands and especially in Crete. here is some photos of pontus while they are dancing.
http://www.kromnaioi.gr/pages/xoreytiko.htm
Here is the official site of Vassilis Tsitsanis one of the most importand composers of the early years.
http://www.tsitsanis.gr/
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Posted: 06-Jan-2007 at 11:22 |
nope, I know this word just for beatiful girls. bola emorfa girl.
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Posted: 06-Jan-2007 at 10:18 |
Originally posted by Mortaza
they dance emorfa. |
Do you speak any rumce?
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Posted: 06-Jan-2007 at 08:01 |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lkRaeLzaws
This is absolutely same with turkish horon.It is much better than that antic horons. they dance emorfa.
To my knowledge no. BUT if we drink a bit and hear this music playing, given our improvisation abilities, we may start dancing like this
Hmm, interesting. This dance is mainly a trabzon dance.
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Posted: 06-Jan-2007 at 02:16 |
To my knowledge no. BUT if we drink a bit and hear this music playing, given our improvisation abilities, we may start dancing like this
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Posted: 06-Jan-2007 at 02:06 |
Originally posted by Mortaza
Neoptolemos,
Do you have new pontus greek singers? I mean these are old. did pontus greeks asimilated by greece greeks? |
Assimilated? Hmm, all Greeks (i.e. Epirotans, Macedonians, Cretans, Peloponneseans etc) have been/are being "assimilated" to an extend to the mainstream Greek culture. For example we all listen to 'laika' and western-style pop songs, we all speak the same language (or rather dialect) more or less, which means that local dialects and accents are gradually fading away, we dress the same way and so on. At the same time, however, we keep (and will continue keeping) some of our region-specific cultural elements alive. For example there are some customs that you only find them in some parts of Greece. Going now to music, all regions of Greece have their traditional music, folk dances, different prime instruments etc. Those are kept alive. The same is happening with the Pontians. They keep their music and dances and they don't forget their roots. So there are new greek-pontian singers. Of course if you ask me to name them I can't, just like most of Greeks here won't know singers who sing Epirotika (traditional songs from Epirus). I know though people with pontian roots who are in the mainstream music industry. Per tradition some links:) Dancing pontians in Athens http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPhthRTHcFw Dancing group in Katerini, Macedonia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPE0htkKTJg Celebration in Nea Makri, Athens http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lkRaeLzaws
And to more from weddings: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u27kh-JzIW0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CA5JdINri0
One of my cousins got married to a woman with pontian roots. At the wedding party (in Athens) they had music (live of course:) from both Epirus and Pontos. I'm telling you, when pontians start dancing they don't stop... they humiliated us! We had an excuse though; they were many more
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Posted: 05-Jan-2007 at 14:14 |
kusura bakma usha'um,
Not your guilt, temellik yaptum sadece.
Mortaza can you "horon tepme"?
not much.Living at istanbul did not help much.
Look, what I have found. A Turkish horon from 1978 and a Greek horon from 1980s. See the resemblance:
Infact I dont see resemblance. this is most weird horon, I ever saw. I am sure greeks have other type of horons too. Infact difference is too normal, horon changes even from one village to another one. I am curious about root of this dance.
Neoptolemos,
Do you have new pontus greek singers? I mean these are old. did pontus greeks asimilated by greece greeks?
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Posted: 04-Jan-2007 at 19:05 |
There are some great videos that you posted guys
Originally posted by Mortaza
not mentioning blacksea music and dance is big crime!
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You are right. Here are some more videos of pontian dances: Sera horos, 1979 clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj6eW5-GZ2IKotsari horos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDZOr1L9aU4@ Panagia Sumela, 1980 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoQzkwzUk6wKnife dance http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMgxUT1GX5I
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Posted: 04-Jan-2007 at 18:59 |
Thanks kotumeyil - very interesting stuff.
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