Greco-Turkish music & dance
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Topic: Greco-Turkish music & dance
Posted By: Hellios
Subject: Greco-Turkish music & dance
Date Posted: 16-Dec-2006 at 23:20
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A short piece of traditional music - I won't call it Greek or Turkish - you decide.
It's a traditional Anatolian lullaby, performed by somebody of Anatolian origin, and Turkish words are heard.
The instrument, called "santouri" in Greek, is of Persian origin.
An image of Istanbul appears behind the stage often...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTlAJn_0j6A - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTlAJn_0j6A
Rgds.
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Posted By: The Hidden Face
Date Posted: 16-Dec-2006 at 23:29
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Clearly Greek. ------------- |
Posted By: bleda
Date Posted: 17-Dec-2006 at 03:46
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bWM-PgxVQ4&mode=related&search=">
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bWM-PgxVQ4#">
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bWM-PgxVQ4&mode=related&search= - Sfakianakis-Guftissa mera 
best greek song ı think ------------- |
Posted By: Bulldog
Date Posted: 17-Dec-2006 at 06:05
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The instrument looks awesome I've never seen one before is it common in Greece?, the singing voice/style is reminicent and similar to some Turkish ballad's, sounds lovely and very moving. ------------- “What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world remains and is immortal.” Albert Pine |
Posted By: Patrinos
Date Posted: 17-Dec-2006 at 14:11
Bleda for now on you are my best arkadash 
If you want just say to me to send you some very good Sfakianakis links!!! 
This instrument is called santouri,common in the islands and was common in Minor Asia(where this "miracle-kid" Areti Ketime is from(her grandparents I mean). This song and melody is nanourisma-cradlesong and its panhellenic,it is sang by mothers and grandmothers to lull the kids...It sound very simiral to some byzantine hymns. I found some samples of santouri: http://www.kofteros.gr/material/Aivaliotiko.mp3 - Aivaliotikos http://www.kofteros.gr/material/San_ta_marmara.mp3 - San ta Marmara tis Polis-Like the marbles of the City http://www.kofteros.gr/material/Pergame.mp3 - Pername(Mytilini) http://www.kofteros.gr/material/Geragotikos.mp3 - Geranotikos syrtos(Mytilini) http://www.kofteros.gr/material/Ta_Xyla.mp3 - Ta xyla |
Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 17-Dec-2006 at 14:22
Performers of traditional music know it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santur - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santur
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Posted By: bleda
Date Posted: 18-Dec-2006 at 08:24
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my greek music playlist 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxt2rR8buPA&mode=related&search=">
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxt2rR8buPA&eurl=#">
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxt2rR8buPA&mode=related&search= - Thanos Petrelis - Kernao
2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDvdKDt_xNk&mode=related&search=">
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDvdKDt_xNk&mode=related&search=#">
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDvdKDt_xNk&mode=related&search= - Peggy Zina - Dustixos
3.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imB1CalGPqk&mode=related&search=">
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imB1CalGPqk&mode=related&search=#">
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imB1CalGPqk&mode=related&search= - Peggy Zina - Den Axizeis
4.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkWX889C5uQ&mode=related&search=">
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkWX889C5uQ#">
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkWX889C5uQ&mode=related&search= - Mustafa Sandal & Natalia - Hatyrla Beni
half türkish half greeks 5.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDNMfpIT7dk&mode=related&search=">
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDNMfpIT7dk#">
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDNMfpIT7dk&mode=related&search= - Mustafa Sandal & Natalia - Aska Yurek Gerek (Anaveis Foties)
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Posted By: Patrinos
Date Posted: 18-Dec-2006 at 09:45
Mmm...Natalia cok guzel
But these are the two best singers now: 1) Notis Sfakianakis His best song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--4EbQ_f1QE&mode=related&search= - O Aetos(the Eagle) other: Look how Greeks groove in bouzoukia!!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2XWZ-o6mEs&mode=related&search= - Paparouna and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0vLdQPFMZY&mode=related&search= - Akou vre file 2) Pasxalis Terzis http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXxQUME-JKg&mode=related&search= - Yparxo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd7QP6TaUBo&mode=related&search= - Dakrysmeni Zitas http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr0yPkd_Ccs&mode=related&search= - Leo And of course the best bouzouktzis Nikolopoulos Nikolopoulos playing Perpiniadis : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wphUMlzzbV4 - here Bleda,I suppose you like Sfakianakis,here take this links from his Live cd(Noother singer has ever sold more CDs from this one(Its in three parts): http://rapidshare.com/files/716139/Notis_Sfakianakis_-_1999_-_XXX_Enthymion__2cd_.part1.rar.html http://rapidshare.com/files/722513/Notis_Sfakianakis_-_1999_-_XXX_Enthymion__2cd_.part2.rar.html http://rapidshare.com/files/722995/Notis_Sfakianakis_-_1999_-_XXX_Enthymion__2cd_.part3.rar.html ------------- "Hellenes are crazy but they have a wise God" Kolokotronis |
Posted By: Zagros
Date Posted: 18-Dec-2006 at 09:57
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In Iranian (especially Kurdish & Persian) traditional music it is very common.
It is the ancestor of the piano. ------------- |
Posted By: xi_tujue
Date Posted: 18-Dec-2006 at 09:58
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about that instrument i have heard it in some old ottoman songs I don't know the name but even the chinese have it. i think sounds greek ------------- I rather be a nomadic barbarian than a sedentary savage |
Posted By: Zagros
Date Posted: 18-Dec-2006 at 10:02
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I think the Chinese may have acquired it from Tajikistan, since it is also common there.
It is called the Santoor. ------------- |
Posted By: xi_tujue
Date Posted: 18-Dec-2006 at 11:14
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They could be possible. It makes sence but cab you find a chinemen the agree
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Posted By: Zagros
Date Posted: 18-Dec-2006 at 12:12
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I have never seen the Chinese version, but there are several styles - the use of this instrument is diverse around the Iranian geographical area (various tribes and people using it). How diverse is it in the Far East? If it is limited only to China then it is probable that it definitely is Near Eastern in Origin.
The only similar Chinese instrument I can think of has the strings plucked rather than hit with the hammer, though I don't know what it is called. ------------- |
Posted By: xi_tujue
Date Posted: 18-Dec-2006 at 12:25
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hmmm the chinese equilevant is smaller and they play it realy fast the plucked version is a nother instrument Turkish its called Kanun(not a original turkic word prob persian or arabic) ------------- I rather be a nomadic barbarian than a sedentary savage |
Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 18-Dec-2006 at 12:26
That means the piano is of Persian origin.
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Posted By: Patrinos
Date Posted: 18-Dec-2006 at 15:09
"Kanun" derives from the Greek word κανων( http://www.answers.com/topic/kanun-instrument - Kanon )='measuring rod; rule'. Kanun is also simiral to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psaltery - Psalterion ------------- "Hellenes are crazy but they have a wise God" Kolokotronis |
Posted By: Anton
Date Posted: 18-Dec-2006 at 15:29
Clearly "Greko-Turko-Serbo-Croato-Albano-Bulgaro-etc.etc.etc".-nian music. Those kind of motives you may find in any country south of Danube. And I suppose in Romania as well.
Very soon people in this forum will start to discuss who invented Harmonic minor -- Greeks or Turks. And somebody will explain us that "Harmony" is Greek word  ------------- . |
Posted By: Patrinos
Date Posted: 18-Dec-2006 at 15:34
You did it for us
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Posted By: Anton
Date Posted: 18-Dec-2006 at 15:35
Actually, I did it for you.  ------------- . |
Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 18-Dec-2006 at 15:41
 Anton, I think Hidden Face simply meant that he thinks it's a Greek song. |
Posted By: Patrinos
Date Posted: 18-Dec-2006 at 15:46
Actually I wouldn't say anything false....just facts 
------------- "Hellenes are crazy but they have a wise God" Kolokotronis |
Posted By: Anton
Date Posted: 18-Dec-2006 at 17:10
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Well, yes. The problem is in different explanations of your facts Ancient Greeks kept themselves busy inventing terminology while leaving invention of things to other nations (just kidding) ;) ------------- . |
Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 18-Dec-2006 at 17:20
Kinda harsh & untrue but Patrinos deserved it.
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Posted By: ephestion
Date Posted: 19-Dec-2006 at 02:31
| The Greeks Developed the Theory which remains more or less unchanged till today. The little inventions we make stemming from the theories change from one generation to the next. Anyone hava an Ice box or Record player? |
Posted By: Patrinos
Date Posted: 19-Dec-2006 at 04:30
Ephestion seems to have more knowledge about music from us guys... ------------- "Hellenes are crazy but they have a wise God" Kolokotronis |
Posted By: Zagros
Date Posted: 20-Dec-2006 at 15:52
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You can see classical Iranian instruments in use in this clip of Kurdish music from Kermanshah (Nazeri) and Sanandaj (collaborating with Kamkars). Santoor is also there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BioCQLRlKso&mode=related&search= - Kamkars & Nazeri ------------- |
Posted By: Patrinos
Date Posted: 21-Dec-2006 at 05:51
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Look what I've found,a band of three Greeks and a Turk:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KS_A3BVUTQ - Kazantzidis' songs And look him playing turkish music/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEe9EXhPaz4&mode=related&search= - Fidayda Very nice music!!!! The band's name is Ithikon Akmaiotaton. ------------- "Hellenes are crazy but they have a wise God" Kolokotronis |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 21-Dec-2006 at 15:47
Very nice. Not easy to do both (play & sing) well at the same time.
 Something interesting: it's a lullaby but some lyrics are about children being taken away...
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 21-Dec-2006 at 15:58
Watched it all - thank you.
Manoochehr Sadeghi, improvisation at the dastgah of Esfahan, Iran:
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-3813584948497784933&q=santur - http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-3813584948497784933&q=santur
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Posted By: konstantinius
Date Posted: 22-Dec-2006 at 07:56
Thanks for all the music links guys (and gals?). I'm so fuc..ng homesick right now
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Posted By: Zagros
Date Posted: 23-Dec-2006 at 12:34
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That was amazing Aegeus. ------------- |
Posted By: malizai_
Date Posted: 23-Dec-2006 at 20:05
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It sounds so eastern. The turk/greek team sounded fantastic.
Zagros, if u want to listen to another variation of santoor try kashmiri.
This has given me an idea for a new thread. ------------- |
Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 28-Dec-2006 at 18:39
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Topic changed from "Greco-Turkish music" to "Greco-Turkish music & dance".
Video (below) of some dances of Cappadocia, Turkey.
First minute is boring, until the girls start the more coordinated/interesting motions.
Costumes are nice.
At 2:55 music & dance tempo increase.
At 3:40 music changes & 2 men start some war dances with daggers.
At 4:45 swords are used.
At 5:50 music changes again & groups of men & women start a religious dance that begins slow & gets faster.
Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDDH8VELPQQ - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDDH8VELPQQ
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Posted By: malizai_
Date Posted: 29-Dec-2006 at 00:13
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Now that's culture, tradition. I find the posturing through the dagger ritual very similar to caucasian(from caucases) posturing in their dances. ------------- |
Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 29-Dec-2006 at 05:56
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This is a video of Turkish street musicians using santur; once I recorded music with the santur player:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbczkLuHIXc - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbczkLuHIXc
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Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 29-Dec-2006 at 06:33
That guy plays baglama/saz very well ------------- [IMG]http://www.maksimum.com/yemeicme/images/haber/raki.jpg"> |
Posted By: Patrinos
Date Posted: 29-Dec-2006 at 10:51
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Kotumevil,what "karagüneş" means? ------------- "Hellenes are crazy but they have a wise God" Kolokotronis |
Posted By: DayI
Date Posted: 29-Dec-2006 at 11:17
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karagunes = black sun
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Posted By: Patrinos
Date Posted: 29-Dec-2006 at 13:57
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Karagun...thats how Ottomans called the inhabitants of Thessaly...
And as "karakaçan" a Greek nomad group.I've read that karakaçan means 'those who flee to uncultivated lands',correct? ------------- "Hellenes are crazy but they have a wise God" Kolokotronis |
Posted By: malizai_
Date Posted: 29-Dec-2006 at 23:52
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Kashmiri Santoor:
http://www.radiokashmir.org/bhajansopori/rainbow/audio/Parimahal.mp3 - http://www.radiokashmir.org/bhajansopori/rainbow/audio/Parimahal.mp3
http://www.radiokashmir.org/bhajansopori/rainbow/audio/Village%20Song.mp3 - http://www.radiokashmir.org/bhajansopori/rainbow/audio/Village%20Song.mp3
http://www.musicindiaonline.com/p/x/gqbkvmFqPd.As1NMvHdW/ - http://www.musicindiaonline.com/p/x/gqbkvmFqPd.As1NMvHdW/ ------------- |
Posted By: konstantinius
Date Posted: 02-Jan-2007 at 19:06
Is that what karagounides means? The inhabitants of Thessaly? ------------- " I do disagree with what you say but I'll defend to my death your right to do so." |
Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 03-Jan-2007 at 13:42
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Karakaçan have a few meanings: "Those who flee to snow" is one meaning. Another meaning may be"the black runner". However it's mostly used as a common name given to donkey in Turkey ------------- [IMG]http://www.maksimum.com/yemeicme/images/haber/raki.jpg"> |
.Posted By: DayI
Date Posted: 03-Jan-2007 at 18:38
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Posted By: Patrinos
Date Posted: 03-Jan-2007 at 19:48
Yes,thats how they are called.Read more http://www.iovhellas.gr/greek/article.php?date=2005-12-21%2022:16:00 - here
The "black-kara" its seems to exist since they wore black fustanellas and the tradition says that they started to wear black after the fall of Polis when they started to flee to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agrafa - Agrafa mountains to escape from the slavery. So the Ottomans called them(and one of my ancestors ) so and thats how they are known when they spread to all over Balkans.
Thanks kotumeyil
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Posted By: DayI
Date Posted: 04-Jan-2007 at 09:31
Nice links thanks. I whasnt aware that this guy (ismail YK) could play baglama so very well, also i learned he could play baglama on his 4th  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s37ct0pXLbQ - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s37ct0pXLbQ more likely he sings songs like this; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8K3n6wMs8k - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8K3n6wMs8k ------------- Bu mıntıka'nın Dayı'sı http://imageshack.us - [IMG - http://www.allempires.com/forum/uploads/DayI/2006-03-17_164450_bscap021.jpg - |
Posted By: Patrinos
Date Posted: 04-Jan-2007 at 11:50
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Very nice DayI!!
Baglama has a very Turkish sound for my ears,and I like it a lot. Is he famous in Turkey?Orhan Osman. He plays rebetika here in the City.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP-BZmHhQVI&mode=related&search= - opa http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75qSjgTwzaA&mode=related&search= - Sagapo by Orhan A very good http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAvbBB36oH8&mode=related&search= - solo Thats sound very Greek to me
I see a lot of people in the magazi( ) where he sings,I know that many Greek who visit Turkey go there.
And a difficult question for you : Who is better buzukcis? Orhan(see solo link ^) or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wphUMlzzbV4 - Nikolopoulos ... difficult ehh??
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Posted By: DayI
Date Posted: 04-Jan-2007 at 13:50
Yes its difficult to choose one But have a look at him too, for me he's the master of baglama http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfJ_rHp8Uas - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfJ_rHp8Uas ------------- Bu mıntıka'nın Dayı'sı http://imageshack.us - [IMG - http://www.allempires.com/forum/uploads/DayI/2006-03-17_164450_bscap021.jpg - |
Posted By: Patrinos
Date Posted: 04-Jan-2007 at 14:31
Extremely good DayI!! I've seen on TV a Turkish who played excelent tubeleki,but I don't remember his name,I've heard that he is considered one of the best.Do you have in mind to who I'm refering? ------------- "Hellenes are crazy but they have a wise God" Kolokotronis |
Posted By: Mortaza
Date Posted: 04-Jan-2007 at 15:18
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Bah, I deleted older post mistakely.
n http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7_xjF8BmkY - ot mentioning blacksea music and dance is big crime!
 Of course, blacksea means kemence and horon. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7_xjF8BmkY - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7_xjF8BmkY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LnpL5_5g_k - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LnpL5_5g_k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tNUqOPEUNM -
some good kemence.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnfklRVEGBI - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnfklRVEGBI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vhsoAZohEA - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vhsoAZohEA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nkW2eRKH5o - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nkW2eRKH5o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-1r_ZPYnno -
and horon!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-1r_ZPYnno - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-1r_ZPYnno
Erkek sallaması.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywlcI5_1-G4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywlcI5_1-G4
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Posted By: DayI
Date Posted: 04-Jan-2007 at 16:42
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Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 04-Jan-2007 at 17:45
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Look, what I have found. A Turkish horon from 1978 and a Greek horon from 1980s. See the resemblance:
Turkish horon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQxC_OHI4HY&feature=PlayList&p=FC52F3079EAFA627&index=0 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQxC_OHI4HY&feature=PlayList&p=FC52F3079EAFA627&index=0
Greek horon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIAdLkRIYTw - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIAdLkRIYTw ------------- [IMG]http://www.maksimum.com/yemeicme/images/haber/raki.jpg"> |
Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 04-Jan-2007 at 18:59
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Thanks kotumeyil - very interesting stuff.
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Posted By: Neoptolemos
Date Posted: 04-Jan-2007 at 19:05
There are some great videos that you posted guys 
Sera horos, 1979 clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj6eW5-GZ2I - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj6eW5-GZ2I Kotsari horos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDZOr1L9aU4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDZOr1L9aU4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMgxUT1GX5I - @ Panagia Sumela, 1980 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoQzkwzUk6w - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoQzkwzUk6w Knife dance http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMgxUT1GX5I - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMgxUT1GX5I ------------- 
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Posted By: Mortaza
Date Posted: 05-Jan-2007 at 14:14
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kusura bakma usha'um,
Not your guilt, temellik yaptum sadece.
Mortaza can you "horon tepme"?
not much.Living at istanbul did not help much. Look, what I have found. A Turkish horon from 1978 and a Greek horon from 1980s. See the resemblance:
Infact I dont see resemblance. this is most weird horon, I ever saw. I am sure greeks have other type of horons too. Infact difference is too normal, horon changes even from one village to another one. I am curious about root of this dance.
Neoptolemos,
Do you have new pontus greek singers? I mean these are old. did pontus greeks asimilated by greece greeks?
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Posted By: Mortaza
Date Posted: 05-Jan-2007 at 14:27
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http:// -
Trabzon kolbastısı, I am curious If greeks have this type of dance. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aes-96MTUaQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfKu49mbaqE&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaUqiFlyxw8 ------------- |
Posted By: Neoptolemos
Date Posted: 06-Jan-2007 at 02:06
Assimilated? Hmm, all Greeks (i.e. Epirotans, Macedonians, Cretans, Peloponneseans etc) have been/are being "assimilated" to an extend to the mainstream Greek culture. For example we all listen to 'laika' and western-style pop songs, we all speak the same language (or rather dialect) more or less, which means that local dialects and accents are gradually fading away, we dress the same way and so on. At the same time, however, we keep (and will continue keeping) some of our region-specific cultural elements alive. For example there are some customs that you only find them in some parts of Greece. Going now to music, all regions of Greece have their traditional music, folk dances, different prime instruments etc. Those are kept alive. The same is happening with the Pontians. They keep their music and dances and they don't forget their roots. So there are new greek-pontian singers. Of course if you ask me to name them I can't, just like most of Greeks here won't know singers who sing Epirotika (traditional songs from Epirus). I know though people with pontian roots who are in the mainstream music industry. Per tradition some links:) Dancing pontians in Athens http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPhthRTHcFw - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPhthRTHcFw Dancing group in Katerini, Macedonia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPE0htkKTJg - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPE0htkKTJg Celebration in Nea Makri, Athens http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lkRaeLzaws - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lkRaeLzaws And to more from weddings: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u27kh-JzIW0 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u27kh-JzIW0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CA5JdINri0 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CA5JdINri0 One of my cousins got married to a woman with pontian roots. At the wedding party (in Athens) they had music (live of course:) from both Epirus and Pontos. I'm telling you, when pontians start dancing they don't stop... they humiliated us! We had an excuse though; they were many more -------------
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Posted By: Neoptolemos
Date Posted: 06-Jan-2007 at 02:16
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Posted By: Mortaza
Date Posted: 06-Jan-2007 at 08:01
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lkRaeLzaws - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lkRaeLzaws
This is absolutely same with turkish horon.It is much better than that antic horons. they dance emorfa.
To my knowledge no. BUT if we drink a bit and hear this music playing, given our improvisation abilities, we may start dancing like this
Hmm, interesting. This dance is mainly a trabzon dance.
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Posted By: Patrinos
Date Posted: 06-Jan-2007 at 10:18
Do you speak any rumce? ------------- "Hellenes are crazy but they have a wise God" Kolokotronis |
Posted By: Mortaza
Date Posted: 06-Jan-2007 at 11:22
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nope, I know this word just for beatiful girls. bola emorfa girl.
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Posted By: Mortaza
Date Posted: 06-Jan-2007 at 15:22
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9P272_XWnU - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9P272_XWnU
do pontus greeks have this type of music too?
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Posted By: Antioxos
Date Posted: 06-Jan-2007 at 16:03
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yes they do have the same music and the same dance but they dont shoot in the air .they do shoot in the air while they are dancing in the islands and especially in Crete. here is some photos of pontus while they are dancing. http://www.kromnaioi.gr/pages/xoreytiko.htm Here is the official site of Vassilis Tsitsanis one of the most importand composers of the early years. http://www.tsitsanis.gr/ |
Posted By: DayI
Date Posted: 06-Jan-2007 at 16:29
Do you call that music? It's not that strange to me, we do fire guns at weddings only. I did this year on my nephews wedding  ------------- Bu mıntıka'nın Dayı'sı http://imageshack.us - [IMG - http://www.allempires.com/forum/uploads/DayI/2006-03-17_164450_bscap021.jpg - |
Posted By: Mortaza
Date Posted: 06-Jan-2007 at 16:30
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8dKGjNnHco&mode=related&search - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8dKGjNnHco&mode=related&search =
This guy looks like absolutely my grandfather. I am shocked hare(If I remember meaning of this word true.(
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Posted By: Mortaza
Date Posted: 06-Jan-2007 at 16:33
Do you call that music?  isnt it?But I think teyze is a little new at this music.
He should make more practice. This is a difficult instrument. |
Posted By: Antioxos
Date Posted: 06-Jan-2007 at 16:53
| Also in the Greek country (not in the cities) they shoot in the air during the weddings the only thing is changing is the gun .In Crete are using kalasnikof in the other areas just simple shotguns. |
Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 06-Jan-2007 at 18:06
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I love sad Black Sea songs:
Dertliyim kederliyim:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOYvy0tvGy8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOYvy0tvGy8
Gelevera Deresi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0lOqZn1IPs - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0lOqZn1IPs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ku4PMR3N3E - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ku4PMR3N3E
Cerrahpaşa:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUskScIlMAc - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUskScIlMAc
Ben seni sevduğumi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUskScIlMAc - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUskScIlMAc Denizde Kararti var:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIVgh0V2eiw&mode=related&search= - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIVgh0V2eiw&mode=related&search=
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Posted By: konstantinius
Date Posted: 06-Jan-2007 at 18:17
They're using AK-47's now on Crete? For real? ------------- " I do disagree with what you say but I'll defend to my death your right to do so." |
Posted By: Neoptolemos
Date Posted: 06-Jan-2007 at 19:13
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Posted By: Mortaza
Date Posted: 07-Jan-2007 at 11:03
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AK-47? Good! It is time to learn greek langauge. do cretans have different dialect?
It looks like that they know how to have fun.
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Posted By: Bulldog
Date Posted: 07-Jan-2007 at 12:38
 Now that's fun, there's nothing like a good air shooting but only for people who know how to use one. I'm tired of the critics, they watn to stop everything
This Garadenizli I know told me that he and his uncles sometimes go to the highest moutain top and shoot their guns into the air just to hear the echo from the next mountains. Is there such a tradition? ------------- “What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world remains and is immortal.” Albert Pine |
Posted By: Patrinos
Date Posted: 07-Jan-2007 at 15:01
Yes they have their own cretan dialect,which preserves more archaic characteristics. Cretans consider the guns a must,even the minister of Public Order,who is from Crete,has three guns in his home and not simple guns...
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Posted By: bleda
Date Posted: 07-Jan-2007 at 18:40
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Posted By: Patrinos
Date Posted: 07-Jan-2007 at 18:54
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Mmmm,Koletsa is cok guzel but only that,she isn'a real singer,but never mind she is observable...
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Posted By: bleda
Date Posted: 07-Jan-2007 at 19:14
She is damn sexy
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Posted By: bleda
Date Posted: 07-Jan-2007 at 19:17
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIvmOSbr-Vk&mode=related&search= - Vassilis Saleas
serkan çağrı & vassilis saleas
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9zIlMGZpyM&mode=related&search= - nikolopoulos-velis- zervas...STIS NTALIKES
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Posted By: Patrinos
Date Posted: 07-Jan-2007 at 19:50
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Thank you very much Bleda,Saleas is one of my favourites.He touches your soul when he plays!!!
He is extremely good and as a person. ------------- "Hellenes are crazy but they have a wise God" Kolokotronis |
Posted By: DayI
Date Posted: 11-Jan-2007 at 15:53
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dog can dance? with Turkish trad. music? http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=baf9c35328 ------------- Bu mıntıka'nın Dayı'sı http://imageshack.us - [IMG - http://www.allempires.com/forum/uploads/DayI/2006-03-17_164450_bscap021.jpg - |
Posted By: Hellios
Date Posted: 02-Feb-2007 at 05:15
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Rempetika.
I guess it can be included here because it was originally performed by Greeks from Smyrna (Izmir) in the 1920's.
The music is about the misfortunes they endured & many of the songs (incliding the 1 below) are about drugs.
Rempetika: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd0FqvnuQS0 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd0FqvnuQS0
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Posted By: kotumeyil
Date Posted: 03-Feb-2007 at 19:20
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It's "Stou Thoma" from the movie... ------------- [IMG]http://www.maksimum.com/yemeicme/images/haber/raki.jpg"> |
Posted By: the_oz
Date Posted: 04-Feb-2007 at 11:43
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[/QUOTE] It's not that strange to me, we do fire guns at weddings only. I did this year on my nephews wedding [/QUOTE]  you know lots of people died because of firing guns at weddings or matches etc. |
Posted By: Don Quixote
Date Posted: 21-Mar-2012 at 02:11
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[TUBE]GaQUMi3BE4o[/TUBE] ------------- |
Posted By: Don Quixote
Date Posted: 22-Mar-2012 at 05:08
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[TUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rEdyxQ-Zxg[/TUBE]
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Posted By: Don Quixote
Date Posted: 23-Mar-2012 at 00:44
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[TUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO8DHSi99bk[/TUBE]
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Posted By: Don Quixote
Date Posted: 25-Mar-2012 at 21:08
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[TUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eszph7pUjs[/TUBE]
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Posted By: Don Quixote
Date Posted: 27-Mar-2012 at 01:33
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[TUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVkkLLWPb5o&feature=related[/TUBE]
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Posted By: Don Quixote
Date Posted: 05-Apr-2012 at 00:32
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[TUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OP6xzJfRYQ&feature=relmfu[/TUBE]
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Posted By: Don Quixote
Date Posted: 10-Apr-2012 at 03:21
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[TUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFDFlP3fQGA[/TUBE]
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Posted By: Don Quixote
Date Posted: 29-Apr-2012 at 16:13
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[TUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPPtZPZ6gzk&feature=relmfu[/TUBE]
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Posted By: Don Quixote
Date Posted: 02-May-2012 at 23:20
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[TUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJvULtRWlzE&feature=related[/TUBE]
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Posted By: meaculpaksk
Date Posted: 13-Dec-2017 at 07:19
Turkish greek common songs
Türkçe Şarkıların Yunanca Versiyonlarıhttps://turkgreek.blogspot.com.tr/
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