Greece only SEE country listed as "Full Democracy"

Originally posted by perikles first of all AThnes was Greece. Like Pella was Greece and Sparta and Thebes etc. Second Athens was the first democratic state ever. In addition in Athens the democracy was WORKING. Nowdays e don't have democracy. It is democracy only in name. That's for sure.

i orginally ment continouse democray which would start from after junta.

athens and its history as well as everything else (sparta, pella, etc) are a part of greece not the whole defining thing.

Thus, in Ancient Greece democracy was, sort of speak, more effective. I might be wrong, of course.

Hellas is indeed one of the most democratic States in the Balkans and in the Eastern Mediterranean Sea.Its still has many problems,but they do not minimize the fact that it is very democratic.All parties that earn votes can enter the Parliament.There is  great political diversity:The Hellenic Communist Party is the third strongest party in the country,while far right or rightist  parties such as LAOS are voted by a significant part of the electorate.Also,there is the European Left,SYNASPISMOS,whose political power is similar to that of LAOS (4th place).

The major political Parties are the following:
1.Nea Demokratia:Central-Right,Libertanian
2.PASOK:Socialist
3.KKE:Hellenic Communistic Party
4.LAOS :rightist and extreme rightist-SYNASPISMOS :European Left

N.D.,PASOK,KKE and SYNASPISMOS are the Parties who managed to enter the Hellenic Parliament during the last national elections.LAOS is out of the Parliament.

Also,the Muslim minority in Thrace is represented in the Hellenic Parliament.The Roma have their own representative too,who is a  in the Party of Nea Demokratia,current goverment.I do not know whether he got elected in the last elections,though.

The majority of the Hellenic citizens are Christian Orthodox,but there are also Muslims (Sunni,Shia),Hinduists from India,Catholics,Jews,Protenstants etc,who are free to worshipp their religion.

Originally posted by bg_turk Originally posted by Anton Oh, sorry, I didn't see it. There are some Greeks in sea cities, I heard about Greek villages in Strandzha and Rodopi, and Karakatzani of course. So, the unswer is yes, it exist. I don't know the number, but it definitely exist. The Karakatzhani are Greek?! I never knew that.

Yeah. This was a bright comment in all this negativity. Their story is really really nice. They were probably known as the peacefull aperandoi tribe of the Agrafa mountains in ancient times. They were always isolated until they became nomads and spread themselves all over balcans. Our stories about vixens, deamons and other paraphysical phenomenas come from their legends. Their villages in their original homeland remind of romantic tribal times thousands years ago. They do have a primitive way of life and they speak a primitive dialect. I'm gonna collect my material about them soon and post it. They have a really nice "back to the nature" history.

I would like to add few thoughts to this forum. Greek democracy was first attempt at the representative governement and it did not work that well. After all, democratic Athens was conqured by autocratic Sparta and later the whole Greece was conquered by barbarian Macedonia. This points to the fact that not all of antique Greece was democratic. The biggest dvelopment of greek culture happened during the reign of Alexander and his generals.
The forms of governement we have now can be traced more to the Roman Republic which was a bit better organized and better working system than direct democracy. The republican system fixes the shortcomings of the direct democracy by providing a representative form of governement to take care of the day to day management of a country.
Greece, indeed, can be commented for establishing a democratic governement after a civil war an a brutal military junta in the sixties. It is a fairly young democracy and its point of departure was very low yet country was able to make a huge progress. This is hope for all its neighbors. To claim that the present governement has anything to do with the antique Grece is a stretch of imagination.
    

Edited by cavalry4ever - 02-Jan-2007 at 12:10

Originally posted by Alparslan   Another important point is related with democracy champion Sweden.... A country which conducted racial hygen policies until 1975. Swedish state has sterilised by force tens of thousands people. Much more people have been forced to abortion in line with racial hygen policies...

The Hellenic Orthodox church seems to be a strong political player,but in reality it isn't.Some years ago,Prime Minister Simitis put to the fore the ID card matter and whether it should be written in the ID card the person's religion.The Church made demonstrations with thousands of people, made public statements against such a political measure etc.Today,if you check an ID card of a Hellen citizen you will see that there is no religious reference in it.......

P.S.:I must admit that i back up the Church on this matter.

Originally posted by Alparslan   I went to Greece. If you go to Athens and to the most touristic quarter Plaka, you will see two remaining mosques. One is almost ruined and the other one is converted to a Greek Hand Arts Museum. The other tens of mosques in Athens have been perished as in the case of Selanik (Thessaloniki). Athens is the only capital in European Union which doesn't have a mosque despite of hundreds thousands of Muslims in the city....   Is this a full democracy? Is this a democracy?   You can produce non-sense studies showing yourself "the most". This is nothing more than masturbation.

Edited by Antioxos - 05-Jan-2007 at 03:35

he is used from his own state.
Why you mentioned only Athens and not Xanthi or Komotini?
I am curious . I guess that this is the way you seeing the things.
And in athens i thinks there are 1000000 muslins at least. And i guess that when you visit athens you found those hundreds of thousands muslins.
thanks for your helps!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol

what can i say more. Viva Republic!!!!