ancient weapons
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Topic: ancient weapons
Posted By: Jalisco Lancer
Subject: ancient weapons
Date Posted: 15-Sep-2004 at 01:03
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Hi Guys: I would like to open a new topic, so we have the opportunity to post the ancient weapons used in our countries. Matchlok weapons would be O.K. Regards |
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Posted By: Hyarmendacil
Date Posted: 15-Sep-2004 at 10:36
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Well, I'm not going to pretend that I'm an expert on the subject of the ancient weaponry of my country. Instead, I'll just post a link where anyone can find a decent load of information about the subject--with a little perseverance, of course. http://perso.wanadoo.fr/taman.sari/index.htm - http://perso.wanadoo.fr/taman.sari/index.htm |
Posted By: Hyarmendacil
Date Posted: 15-Sep-2004 at 10:36
| By the way, I expect Koreans to post a lot about gunpowder rockets here. Brace yourself, Jalisco Lancer. |
Posted By: Tobodai
Date Posted: 15-Sep-2004 at 12:35
and turtle ships and nationalist rhetoric ------------- "the people are nothing but a great beast... I have learned to hold popular opinion of no value." -Alexander Hamilton |
Posted By: demon
Date Posted: 15-Sep-2004 at 13:24
Weapons...does it have size limit  ?------------- Grrr.. |
Posted By: Wrageowrapper
Date Posted: 15-Sep-2004 at 21:10
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Well my people managed to fend off the British for 20
years with nothing but sharpened wooden spears and clubs. What they had which was superior to the Britts was guerrella warfare and bush craft. So in that regard i'd have to say tacticts and organisation were the best weapons of my people. |
Posted By: Landsknecht_Doppelsoldner
Date Posted: 15-Sep-2004 at 21:27
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Sounds like a good topic... ------------- "Who despises me and my praiseworthy craft, I'll hit on the head that it resounds in his heart." --Augustin Staidt, of the Federfechter (German fencing guild) |
Posted By: Landsknecht_Doppelsoldner
Date Posted: 16-Sep-2004 at 12:04
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I'll contribute info on the Continental European two-handed sword (zweihander, bidenhander, schlachtschwert, spada da due mane, espee a deux mains, spadone, espadon, claidheamh da laimh, great sword, etc), if folks are interested... ------------- "Who despises me and my praiseworthy craft, I'll hit on the head that it resounds in his heart." --Augustin Staidt, of the Federfechter (German fencing guild) |
Posted By: Temujin
Date Posted: 16-Sep-2004 at 16:12
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flamberge is the name you're looking for ------------- |
Posted By: Jalisco Lancer
Date Posted: 16-Sep-2004 at 17:27
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Taken from a previous post ( Arms and Armors of the Aztecs ) at the Americas, Asia Forum:
AZTEC WEAPONS
Aztec Spear Thrower (Atl-Atl)
DEFENSIVE WEAPONS AZTEC SHIELD
AZTEC ARMOR
TYPICAL AZTEC WARRIOR AND WEAPONS
Aztec Battle Pendant
Common Aztec Peasant Warrior with Shield
AZTEC JAGUAR WARRIOR ARMOR AND HELMET
Lifesized Ceramic Statue of Aztec Eagle Warrior
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Posted By: JanusRook
Date Posted: 16-Sep-2004 at 17:31
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Jalisco I love the Aztec obsidian sword (well mostly because I like Obsidian).
Isn't that shield in a german museum now? ------------- Economic Communist, Political Progressive, Social Conservative. Unless otherwise noted source is wiki. |
Posted By: Jalisco Lancer
Date Posted: 16-Sep-2004 at 17:39
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as many other stuffs like the Moctezuma Feather Crown ( (Copilli Queztalli) is now in a Museum in Austria. It consists of 400 quetzal-feathers and some gold (most of the gold was removed).
Too bad that Juarez agreed to return Maximilian's mummy to Austria some months after his execution in 1867.
We could exchange his corpse for the Moctezuma Crown |
Posted By: cattus
Date Posted: 16-Sep-2004 at 17:45
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i really like the quiver. Did the aztects use anything that resembled a composite bow? ------------- |
Posted By: Jalisco Lancer
Date Posted: 16-Sep-2004 at 18:02
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Not really Catt, but they used a spear thrower named Atl Atl
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Posted By: TMPikachu
Date Posted: 16-Sep-2004 at 20:24
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Zhan ma Dao (the picture of the men do NOT show them wielding them. The Zhanmadao is the sword above them. That one is over 1.5 meters in length) 'horse killing/chopping blade' designs varied from 1.2 meters to 2 meters in length with a blade:hilt ratio of 3:1 to 2:1 Used for killing heavy cavalry. Wielded first by elite vanguard soldiers of the Song dynasty.
Original Song sword
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Posted By: demon
Date Posted: 16-Sep-2004 at 21:26
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Korean native bow. Creation time: 100~120 days, only on spring and fall Made with: Bamboo, cow horn, hickory, etc Average Range: 360m Used since ancient times. ------------- Grrr.. |
Posted By: JanusRook
Date Posted: 17-Sep-2004 at 00:03
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Is it meant to fold up like that? If so then that's the most convenient bow ever. ------------- Economic Communist, Political Progressive, Social Conservative. Unless otherwise noted source is wiki. |
Posted By: Yiannis
Date Posted: 17-Sep-2004 at 03:39
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We had a similar thread in General history so I'll just copy/paste my previous post GREEK HELMETS: Corinthian (Infantry, 7th-5th century BC)
Boeotian (Cavalry, 5th-2nd century BC)
Phrygian (Infantry, 5th-2nd century BC, usede mainly by Ionian Greeks and Alexander's troops)
Attic helmet (Infantry, 5th-2nd century BC)
Breastplates (Thorax, Argos, 8th century BC-one of the early ones):
Breastplates (Thorax, Greek Apulia, 4th century BC):
Other types of armor were made out of Linen (Linothorax). They were lighter, offered good protection and were not as hot! Here's what Linothorax looked like: http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/1855328674/ref=sib_dp_pt/103-5952402-4879842#reader-page - http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/1855328674/ref=sib_dp_pt/103 -5952402-4879842#reader-page (sometimes leather was used instead) leg guards:
Overall:
------------- The basis of a democratic state is liberty. Aristotle, Politics Those that can give up essential liberty to obtain a temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin |
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Posted By: Hyarmendacil
Date Posted: 17-Sep-2004 at 10:13
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The stiffest composite bows tend to fold like that. It's not unique to Korean bows--a large number of similar examples from Russia, Turkey, and Mongolia, for example, are also available--but most of the bows that possess enough stiffness to exhibit such an extreme reflex curve are short composite bows. Longer composite bows tend to be less stiff so that they would be able to provide the longer, steadier push required to effectively propel heavier arrows. |
Posted By: fastspawn
Date Posted: 30-Sep-2004 at 11:35
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Grenades used against the Jurchens during the Song dynasty. Some people claim these grenades were "explosive". I doubt that. I suggest they weren't meant to seriously cause injury through shrapnel, rather they produced smoke, noise and a flash of light designed to panic the horses which the jurchens rode. |
Posted By: Gubook Janggoon
Date Posted: 03-Oct-2004 at 18:57
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Attic helmet (Infantry, 5th-2nd century BC) wow that looks tight ------------- |
Posted By: Yiannis
Date Posted: 04-Oct-2004 at 10:11
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Actually that's the Ionian one
But yes it looks a bit funny! ------------- The basis of a democratic state is liberty. Aristotle, Politics Those that can give up essential liberty to obtain a temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin |
Posted By: ihsan
Date Posted: 09-Oct-2004 at 09:04
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BOWS OF THE STEPPES
The pics are taken from the http://www.traditional-archery-scandinavia.com/ - Traditional Archery Scandinavia site, you can view more pics there.
Hunnic Bow: Early Avar Bow: Middle Avar Bow: Late Avar Bow: Turkish Bow: Magyar (Hungarian) Bow: Mongolian Bow: Crimean Tatar Bow: Traditional Hunting Recurved Bow: ------------- [IMG]http://img50.exs.cx/img50/6148/ger3.jpg"> Qaghan of the Vast Steppes http://steppes.proboards23.com - Steppes History Forum |