Most Effective Terrorgroup
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Topic: Most Effective Terrorgroup
Posted By: Bosnjo
Subject: Most Effective Terrorgroup
Date Posted: 07-Feb-2005 at 19:49
| I would say Crna Ruka (Panslawists), they caused the WW1, due to this a Panslawian State was formed, Jugoslawia, |
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Posted By: Tobodai
Date Posted: 07-Feb-2005 at 19:51
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no one has pulled quite a show off like Al Queada, and for effecting domestic policy the KKK is very effective. ------------- "the people are nothing but a great beast... I have learned to hold popular opinion of no value." -Alexander Hamilton |
Posted By: cattus
Date Posted: 07-Feb-2005 at 20:00
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Al Quaeda, what losers.. they take a couple of buildings on US turf, and the US goes over to theirs and takes a couple of countries. ------------- |
Posted By: Tobodai
Date Posted: 07-Feb-2005 at 20:07
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yes dont you see it, their plan worked perfectly. Their objective had long been to lure the US into a middle eastern quagmire and gain recruits from anti american sentiment and th elikely american reaction, and so far their plan is working with nary a hitch. ------------- "the people are nothing but a great beast... I have learned to hold popular opinion of no value." -Alexander Hamilton |
Posted By: cattus
Date Posted: 08-Feb-2005 at 00:51
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i see Big Macs in Baghdad ------------- |
Posted By: SulcataIxlude
Date Posted: 08-Feb-2005 at 07:10
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JI has been quite effective in Indonesia, and other regions of SE Asia recently. And I agree with Tobodai about Al Qaeda and the KKK. The funny thing is that the US government has done almost nothing to hinder the KKK. Makes you think, huh? |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 08-Feb-2005 at 07:54
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Posted By: TheDiplomat
Date Posted: 08-Feb-2005 at 11:54
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ASALA-The Armenian terror group of 1970s were very effective.The group commited crimes from North America to Australia and murdered innocents of many nationalities. ------------- ARDA:The best Turkish diplomat ever! |
Posted By: Beylerbeyi
Date Posted: 08-Feb-2005 at 12:49
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Al Qaida is pretty effective indeed, they were instrumental against the USSR in Afghanistan and recently made the US leave Saudi Arabia. America's response to Al Qaida was to invade Afghanistan, which failed to bag Bin Ladin. Invasion of Iraq, as everyone who doesn't exclusively watch Fox TV knows, has nothing to do with AQ. By removing Saddam, who was an enemy of AQ, the US made a favour for the AQ, and turned Iraq, which was previously a safe zone, into AQ operations theatre number one. Not to mention the millions of Muslims everywhere (and many others) who started to see the US as an evil crusading power, just the thing AQ wants. This is all bad for US, so why is the US doing it? Can they really be that stupid? Bush II apparently is, but the others aren't: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4228717.stm - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4228717.stm 'Earlier that week, US oil giant Exxon Mobil announced that it had made a record $25.3bn (£13.4bn) profit in 2004 as it benefited from the surge in crude oil prices. ChevronTexaco recently said its fourth quarter profits had nearly doubled to $3.44bn, against the same period in 2003.' http://phoenix.bizjournals.com/phoenix/stories/2005/01/31/daily42.html - http://phoenix.bizjournals.com/phoenix/stories/2005/01/31/da ily42.html 'Defense contractor Raytheon Co. Thursday reported a 16 percent increase in fourth quarter 2004 earnings.' As to other effective terror organisations, Vietcong was very effective. Defeated France and the US. Che's group in Cuban revolution was also very effective, they took over most of the country with a force of 150-300 people (of course, the Batista regime was very ineffective). ------------- |
Posted By: Infidel
Date Posted: 08-Feb-2005 at 14:50
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As for ineffective, I would say the ETA in Spain. ------------- An nescite quantilla sapientia mundus regatur? |
Posted By: Paul
Date Posted: 08-Feb-2005 at 21:42
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IRA (original) American Revolutionaries Eztel (Menachem Begin's group) were pretty successful......They all won. ------------- Light blue touch paper and stand well back http://www.maquahuitl.co.uk - http://www.maquahuitl.co.uk http://www.toltecitztli.co.uk - http://www.toltecitztli.co.uk |
Posted By: Vamun Tianshu
Date Posted: 08-Feb-2005 at 21:46
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I say Al Queda.Definitely,the insurgents have been successful in most cases as well.Also,there is a terrorist group in the Pacific Islands which probably had ties to Al Queda,in which one of the people who bombed a building in 1993 possibly had ties to. ------------- 
In Honor |
Posted By: Tobodai
Date Posted: 09-Feb-2005 at 00:44
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a;long with a worldwide increase in AlQueada recruitment and a new theatrer for them to operate in , yes. ------------- "the people are nothing but a great beast... I have learned to hold popular opinion of no value." -Alexander Hamilton |
Posted By: cattus
Date Posted: 09-Feb-2005 at 11:58
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Al Qaeda's bright spot may have been in Spain where the people caved and likely turned an election.
They attacked the US because of its presence and influence in their region, now look. No need to stay in Saudi, more options today to setup camp. We are talking about a handful of insergents verses millions of free people. Ask the Taliban how effective they are. ------------- |
Posted By: Tobodai
Date Posted: 09-Feb-2005 at 19:40
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Yes our wonderful ally Saudi Arabia ... I applaud the Spanish election, Jose Maria Asnar immediately jumped the gun when the attack happened and blamed the ETA which was wrong, Spain also had nothing to gain in Iraq, and so voters threw him out because he blamed the wrong people. I dont care if the peopel in Iraq are free, they really arent free yet anyway, but in the Cold War we were smart, we allied with evil people to uphold overal strategic goals. This worked, we should have doen it tacitly with Saddam, he was secular, he was powerful, and he stablizied the rejoin after being neutered after 91, most of the people he tortured where the people we now fight. Military action against Saudi Arabia makes 50 times more sense than action against Iraq when fighting crazy extremists. ------------- "the people are nothing but a great beast... I have learned to hold popular opinion of no value." -Alexander Hamilton |
Posted By: Artaxiad
Date Posted: 09-Feb-2005 at 19:55
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What are you talking about? (Don't get me wrong, I obviously don't support terrorism) |
ASALA generally targeted Turkish diplomats. Don't forget about the Turkish Group - 'Grey Wolves' 
Posted By: TheDiplomat
Date Posted: 10-Feb-2005 at 04:58
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Posted By: Jalisco Lancer
Date Posted: 10-Feb-2005 at 12:34
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Sendero Luminoso ( Peru ) and the Kaibiles from Guatemala. |
Posted By: Bosnjo
Date Posted: 13-Feb-2005 at 07:57
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@ Diplomant the Asla was very well organized, i have never heard something about them.
Al Qaidas aims are similar with the aims of the "Black Hand", they wanted to provoke their enemy to an overreaction, so that they could get a peoples insurgency, but Al Qaida failed at the moment, because the US did not overreact rather they (ab)used the 9.11 for their stragical aims, the question is what happens continue in Iraq and if the US is going to attack a further islamic Country.
What is the KKK doing now, I thought they are history.
------------- I am heavely armed, entirely sick and extremly nationalistic. |
Posted By: Komnenos
Date Posted: 13-Feb-2005 at 11:36
I watched a program on BBC a few months back, where a few journalists and former members of the British intelligence services stated the theory, that the idea that Al Queda was a world wide terror network with enormous resources and connections was just a product of American propaganda. They believed that Al Queda was an organisation with a rather limited influence and that the notion that Bin Laden would command thousands of militant terrorists around the world was simply ludicrous. At its best, Al Queda was part of a very loose network of similar Islamic groups whose powers and membership was grotesquely over-estimated. It is for any outsider quite impossible to verify the arguments brought forward here, but the idea that the Bush administration created a monster to justify all sorts of political and military manouvers, is not completely absurd. Or is it? ------------- [IMG]http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/komnenos/crosses1.jpg"> |
Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 04-Sep-2011 at 19:09
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The terrorist state of Israel, obviously. It came into being in 1948 after a campaign of bombing and killing by groups like the Haganah. The Americans, guilty about not doing more to prevent the Holocaust, support Israel's ethnic cleansing of the descendents of the biblical Jews. Anyone who dares to criticise the atrocities is automatically branded an antisemite. Is it surprising that the modern Palestinian terror groups adopted the early methods of their oppressors? ------------- Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains! |
Posted By: Centrix Vigilis
Date Posted: 04-Sep-2011 at 19:26
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Like all of these 'who is or who was' threads....historical context and era remains the key.
Next. ------------- "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" S. T. Friedman Pilger's law: 'If it's been officially denied, then it's probably true' |
Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 04-Sep-2011 at 19:31
Despite the hammering they received in Afghanistan we mustn't simply dismiss Al-Qaeda, however. They remain a genuine threat, despite Osama's long-overdue execution and the wave of democratic revolutions across the Arab world. ------------- Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains! |
Posted By: Centrix Vigilis
Date Posted: 04-Sep-2011 at 19:41
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Yep but as as ole Ed B. from Dalhart would say..."that thar rat bastard personal aint a threat no more"
Wise man ole Ed.  ------------- "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" S. T. Friedman Pilger's law: 'If it's been officially denied, then it's probably true' |
Posted By: Cryptic
Date Posted: 05-Sep-2011 at 08:16
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The IRA beats Al Queda (just like in the deadliest warrior series)...
The IRA operated for decades in a small geographical area. Their opponents included a nation with a first rate, high tech military and loyalist terror groups. Al Queda could operate openly and in a large scale in Pakistan Sudan and they pretty much ran Afghanistan witht he Taliban.
Meanwhile, the IRA had "safe houses", but never a "safe country" where they could operate openly and in a large scale (base camps, training camps etc). And unlike Al Queda, the IRA also lacked a global recruit pool.
Yet.... they kept going and going and going.
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Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 05-Sep-2011 at 20:33
That's a dangerous way of thinking. The old bastard might be dead but he's got a lot of mates who want revenge ------------- Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains! |
Posted By: Centrix Vigilis
Date Posted: 06-Sep-2011 at 01:27
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On the contrary Nick ole son...ya eradicate as necessary one at a time...the only thing one fears is the fear they allow to impart on the weak willed.... which includes and is part and parcel of their intent.. to destroy the culture I enjoy and defend. Tis not dangerous at all.. for in the end if it requires a multi approach to eradicate and destroy... then like the insects they remain....bring on the chemicals.
Amen. ------------- "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" S. T. Friedman Pilger's law: 'If it's been officially denied, then it's probably true' |