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My latest Spnish deterent

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Topic: My latest Spnish deterent
Posted By: Paul
Subject: My latest Spnish deterent
Date Posted: 28-Jan-2005 at 22:13

 

Wheyhey! Just worked out how to post pictures from my desktop onto this forum.

 

All I have to do now is leave the backwindow open and an "On Holiday" notice on the front door, and wait......

I could become the first person to use one on another human in almost half a millenia. Great headline too, "Aztec slays burglar."

   

Think I'll go to Spain on my hols next year..... I'll even get it onto the plane through the metal detector...

..........Along with that Obsidiean knife I made specially to hijack the plane with.



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Light blue touch paper and stand well back

http://www.maquahuitl.co.uk - http://www.maquahuitl.co.uk

http://www.toltecitztli.co.uk - http://www.toltecitztli.co.uk



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Posted By: Paul
Date Posted: 06-Feb-2005 at 18:03

Try again!



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Light blue touch paper and stand well back

http://www.maquahuitl.co.uk - http://www.maquahuitl.co.uk

http://www.toltecitztli.co.uk - http://www.toltecitztli.co.uk


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 07-Feb-2005 at 06:02
Wow, did you make that one yourself?

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Posted By: Paul
Date Posted: 07-Feb-2005 at 09:09

Yup! All me own work, it's based on the one below from the Royal Armoury in Madrid, the only Macuahuitl to survive the conquest.

When I get me digital camera back I'll post some pics of my Tepoztopilli and Mixtec Sabre. Currently I'm about half way through making a huge double handed Macuahuitl.



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Light blue touch paper and stand well back

http://www.maquahuitl.co.uk - http://www.maquahuitl.co.uk

http://www.toltecitztli.co.uk - http://www.toltecitztli.co.uk


Posted By: Jalisco Lancer
Date Posted: 07-Feb-2005 at 10:17


Hey Paul , that's a Master piece !!!

You should apply for a job at the National History and Antropology museum in Mexico City.

Only one observation. I completelly admire your work. However, I noted the lace on the hand grip is missing.

The lace was fixed to the wristle to improve the handling.

http://history.smsu.edu/jchuchiak/Aztec%20Weapons%201.gif

Regards



Posted By: Paul
Date Posted: 07-Feb-2005 at 20:47

Originally posted by Jalisco Lancer




Only one observation. I completelly admire your work. However, I noted the lace on the hand grip is missing.

The lace was fixed to the wristle to improve the handling.

Thanks for the comments,

Unfortuanately Mexican lace isn't exactly available at the local convenience shop in the Uk, but I continually upgrading my supplies of authentic material and increasing my knowledge of authentic methods of manufacture. Often with the latter more from personal experience than reading. It's amazing how much speculation by historians in their books has proven wrong and small insights into production and fighting I've gained by making some. Still I've only been doing it for a year, it's early days yet.



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Light blue touch paper and stand well back

http://www.maquahuitl.co.uk - http://www.maquahuitl.co.uk

http://www.toltecitztli.co.uk - http://www.toltecitztli.co.uk


Posted By: Gubook Janggoon
Date Posted: 07-Feb-2005 at 20:51
Whoa!  Nice job!

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Posted By: hugoestr
Date Posted: 10-Feb-2005 at 19:07
That is an incredible, beautiful piece.

Please share the specs:
How long is it?
How much does it weigh?
How long did it take you to make one, once you had the materials?
Is it easy to use?
Please share your insights into fighting with it.

Also, what kind of research you did to replicate the weapon? Besides that image, what other sources you used?

Finally, when will the website on the making of it be up



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Posted By: Teup
Date Posted: 10-Feb-2005 at 19:35

Sweet

...and as for the specs, most of all, where's the center of gravity?



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Whatever you do, don't


Posted By: Paul
Date Posted: 11-Feb-2005 at 20:07

Thanks, I'll answer your questions as soon as I locate a tape measure. Till then check out this topic,

http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1310&PN=1&TPN=2 - http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1310& ; ;PN=1&TPN=2



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Light blue touch paper and stand well back

http://www.maquahuitl.co.uk - http://www.maquahuitl.co.uk

http://www.toltecitztli.co.uk - http://www.toltecitztli.co.uk


Posted By: Paul
Date Posted: 14-Feb-2005 at 23:12

How long is it?

81.5 cm. - Blade section 56cm, Handle 22cm, Pommel 3.5cm

Side one 15 blades, Edge Length 47cm. Side two 14 blades, Edge Length 48cm.


How much does it weigh?

350g (approx)


How long did it take you to make one, once you had the materials?

A week working sporadically.

Could be done 2 hours for knapping the blades and 4+ hours for carving the wood.

Where's the center of gravity?

32cm from the tip.


Is it easy to use?

It very light and easy to swing, a straight blade so difficult to cut with and not at all sleek so awkward to stylishly fence with.


Please share your insights into fighting with it.

It would be a severe disadvantage against a sleeker Spanish sword. It's tip heavy, cutting swords are made tip heavy and fencing swords more evenly balanced. It's also more durable than you would imagine and could survive repeated impacts on an opponents shield. I'd invisage Aztecs fights were brutal dark age Europe style battering and bludgeoning matches.

Also, what kind of research you did to replicate the weapon? Besides that image, what other sources you used?

Aztec painted codices, Archaeological dig reports, contemporary accounts by conquistadores, Hoffman plates and several modern writers.

Finally, when will the website on the making of it be up

Don't hold your breath.

 


 



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Light blue touch paper and stand well back

http://www.maquahuitl.co.uk - http://www.maquahuitl.co.uk

http://www.toltecitztli.co.uk - http://www.toltecitztli.co.uk


Posted By: Landsknecht_Doppelsoldner
Date Posted: 15-Feb-2005 at 07:20

Nice work, Paul.

I've made a replica of a Japanese konsaibo war-club, as well as Crusader war-clubs inspired by those shown in the Maciejowski Bible--but I've never attempted anything as ambitious as your maquahuitl.

 

Originally posted by Paul

Thanks, I'll answer your questions as soon as I locate a tape measure. Till then check out this topic,

http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1310&PN=1&TPN=2 - http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1310& ; ; ;PN=1&TPN=2

 

Hehe, a good thread, which I also contributed to...



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"Who despises me and my praiseworthy craft,

I'll hit on the head that it resounds in his heart."


--Augustin Staidt, of the Federfechter (German fencing guild)



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