hi, this is my first post/thread here.

i'm making a "mod" for a strategy game and was wondering... does anybody have any information on the native american indian tribes such as the different weapons/armor the tribes used, the different warriors/cavalry of the tribes, what the chiefs looked like(clothing)?. also wonder one thing about the mexica: what did the otomi warriors look like?

would be really nice of you. btw awsome forum(awsome place of info).

BR Markus

By refering to Mexica Otomis I presume you are talking about the Otomitl

A lot of military historians have confused the Mexica Otomitl warriors and the Otomis because of the similarity of pronunciation, Cortez in his fourth letter makes this very observation. The Otomitl were an elite order of Mexica troops similar to the Cuachics.

The Otomi were a native peoples who residence in the valley of Mexico and around stretches back possibly to the time of Teotihuacan and before. They shared the area with subsequent migrants right upto and including the Chichimecs. There was a substantial number of Otomis in Tlaxcala and they had a large city on the North of lake Texcoco called Xaltcan but there were only a few living in Tenochtitlan. The Otomis of Tlaxcala were the first troops of that city to engage the Spanish. Later however the whole Otomi people allied with them against the Mexica.

Mexica Otomitl

thanks for the info on otomitl, but dont the otomi have some kinda of warriors to(shaven head)?

here are some of the tribes im wondering about: Apache, Comanche, Cherokee, Choctaw, Chickasaw, pawnee, Shoshone, Creek, Sioux, Crow, Seminole, Cree, Navajo and Blackfoot(i know, it's a long list). any kind of info on how the warriors and their chiefs looked and the armor/weapons they used would be really good.

thanks

The Otomi were a diverse people most of there settlements were subject to the Triple Alliance. However they were also spread over Totonac, Tlacallan and Tarascan lands too. And like the other sunject peoples would have contributed to their campaign armies. They were a semi-barbaric tribe and  particularly sought amongst their warriors were the famed shaven headed fanatics who served in Triple Alliance, Tarascan and Tlaxcallan armies. However as a subject people they were quick to embrace the Spanish as their liberators and not only helped them defeat the Aztecs proved to be some of the Spanish's finest allies in later campaigns.

pre or post contact weapons? 

lets say pre contact weapons. wouldnt post be like only shotguns and other western weapons? or did they upgrade their old ones? anyhow id like the pre contact. thanks for helping

thanks jalisco, but does it say anything about the different warriors of Maya? maybe i didnt read it thouroughly enough...

That would be awsome! thanks!

Here is a interesting web page about tomahawks (has some good pictures too.)

http://www.snowwowl.com/naarttomahawk.html - http://www.snowwowl.com/naarttomahawk.html

Here is some info about Comanche weapons, and culture

http://www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/cultural/northamerica/comanche.html - http://www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/cultural/northamerica/comanche.h tml

The handbook of Texas can help you find some information regarding some of the Indian tribes that your looking for.

http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/view/PP/bmp52.html - http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/view/PP/ bmp52.html

Sorry if this wasn't much help, but if I find anything else I'll let you know.

Originally posted by eaglecap http://eagle.uaa.alaska.edu/as200/tlingit_se.htm You might want to do an internet search for the plains indians such as the blackfeet in Montana or the Apache in Arizonia/New Mexico. Do you want pre Columbian or Post? Of course, in the pre period there were no horses. My favorite is the coastal tribes of Oregon, Washington and B.C. Canada. They lived in permanent settlements along the coast and their homes were made of planked cedar. Until the arrival of the white man they used wooden armour in battle and they had long war canoes made of planked wood, cedar. They were often come back from battle with their enemies head as a trophy, sort of like what the Celts did. Their art is incredible!!!

I agree that pacific northwest indians rock, but my favorite is still eastern woodlands because of the iroquois

I Ojibwa I'm proud to be a First Nations Candian.

Here are some web sites for First Nations weapons:

http://encarta.msn.com/media_461518793/Quiver_and_Bow_Case.html - encarta.msn.com/.../ Quiver_and_Bow_Case.html

http://www.wealth4freedom.com/ truth/1/indian2.htm - www.wealth4freedom.com/ truth/1/indian2.htm

http://www.oswego.org/testprep/ ss5/b/basicneedsl.cfm - www.oswego.org/testprep/ ss5/b/basicneedsl.cfm

Rome total war.

someone else grabbed the opportunity of starting a mod with same idea, since i was afriad there would be lack of intrest due to the already existing american conquest which itself is drying out as i see it.

anyways the mod now is promising and i might post screens and updates here and if you guys wanna help with accuracy feel free.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/index.php?showforum=89 - http://www.twcenter.net/forums/index.php?showforum=89  <---- link to the mods forum

what you guys think of theese? there are more pics at http://www.twcenter.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=28041 - http://www.twcenter.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=28041

Here's a good site on Native American mythology, featuring the artwork of Richard Hook (he of Osprey fame):

http://www.firstpeople.us/FP-Html-Pictures/Pictures-Myths-page1.html - http://www.firstpeople.us/FP-Html-Pictures/Pictures-Myths-pa ge1.html