I think basic words like 'Mum', 'Dad', etc are common in all languages. Babies may speak the One Mother Language.

It would be interesting to find these words.

 

 

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It wasn't, previous lifeforms sometimes linked to Humans share little in common with us they were a form of Ape. Human's are completely different due to our most original feature which is this brain and intellegence.

 

Its well documented that Humans started as a small group centred in Eastern Africa, we are the only living species able to communicate in this manner so when this small group was created and formed we must have had one language.

 

What was this language? will we never know? is there any living languages close to it?

 

Maybe the stories like Tower of Babel etc relate to this, I'm not for a second saying that this story is its current form has alot to do with hard facts however, most myths have a basis, somthing had to happen for that myth to occur. In Oral tradition what happened gets distorted and exaggerated, the base of the story could be that we all spoke one language at the beginning?

 

Its just a theory but think about it.

 

 

 

 

Originally posted by Aelfgifu Humanity was already spread out over the world before we began to talk, I believe. Pre-Homo-Sapiens humans are found all over the world, and it is not likely all of these could talk. I dont believe there is a One Mother Tongue, and I certainly dont believe it would still be around, as languages tend to be variable, not static.

 

I think that this explanation is more likely than the One Mother tongue theory. After all, even if all humans were together, think of how much linguistic variation there is between different groups of people in the same geographic area who share a birth tongue. For instance I wouldn't be caught dead referring to someone as "Dawg," nor would I refer to that city in Massachusettes as "Baston." Heck, I don't even understand some of the things people send me in e-mails and over instant messenger.

 

-Akolouthos

Almost any being on this planet can communicate, create and do whatever it likes....bad argument. There are extremely few things a human can do which animals cant do at all, we just took it a bit further. The basics are there in nature.

 

edit - besides, this free will of humans is still a bit of an argument isnt it? got proof?

 

I don't quite understand what particular argument you are making against free-will--or indeed if you are making such an argument at all. Care to elaborate?

 

-Akolouthos

 

Well done you.

 

I can tell you that the source of all modern human languages is that of the San Bushmen, look it up.

 

Sorry but I have to disagree.

 

Can Cats, Dogs and Monkeys surf the internet, find AllEmpires forum and begin to qustion who they are, what they're doing or what their purpose is?

 

This is such an unbelievably enormous miraculous difference which seperates us from the rest of the animal kingdom, were totally unique and different.

 

As we totally differ and are a unique creation we must have had an initial language. We are all human and have one ancestor who began this race, this initial group had to have had a language to communicate in because their brain is the same brain that we have today.

 

 

Do you have evidence to show every single brain measurement taken on early human skulls by paleontoligists and museums across the world is wrong and your statement is correct?

 

 

If there is one thing humans are not, it is unique. Of course cats can not surf the internet, thats plain stupid. You must look on a more general scale. Animals can communicate: even cretures as little as bees have an complicated means of communicaton where the good stuff is to be found.

Animals can use tools. Not only apes, birds like crows can learn to use twigs or rocks to get to food, so again, not unique to humankind.

There are lots of animals which can recognise themselves in the mirror, Again not only apes or monkeys but birds as well, so self-conciousness is not unique to humans either.

Nor is having a will of its own strictly human. If I call our cat to come over and be stroked, sometimes she comes at once and sometimes she just looks and turns away. She has a very strong will of her own.

 

 

 

 

 

Ofcourse Humans are totally unique, a bee will still be a bee doing what bees do today in ten thousand years, communicating in the same way, not thinking, changing, advancing.

 

There is no other species which is creative and inventive like humans were totally unique.

 

Look even having the ability to sit here and debate wether were unique or not is unique, can two birds sit here and debate like this?  

 

 

 

 

The early apes used a sharp stone for hundreds of thousands of years they never devoloped at all, they did not have the intellegence to realise or do anything new.

 

The whole idea that these ape creatures are supposed to be our ancestors is absolutely ridiculous and has never been conclusively proven for it to be accepted.

 

If we are all descended from these Ape creatures and they were spread around the world "allready" that means we humans are not equal, were not the same and are actually different species, this whole idea is racist. How could we have all became the same humans if we were spread around the Earth and exposed to totally different environments and situations and so could not have developed at the same rate or same manner. This idea is flawed if it is argued we humans are all equal and one.

 

This is why I say we must have had one original language as were all from the human race. A unique creation totally different to anything else.

 

 

 

 

 

Not reading the theory or knowing anything about it bar the name. Making up yourself something you think it should say and then proclaiming what you made up is wrong doesn't exactly put the theory of evolution in any danger itself.

 

 

Bulldog, perhaps you should do some reading on the matter of evolution before discarding it. I did read the Bible before discarding it, so you could return the favor...

And your ideas on evolution and psychology are about a hundred years behind. It is plain stupid arrogance to think humans could be unique. And if you think humans are "thinking, changing, advancing", think again. If there is one thing one can learn from history, it is that humankind stubbornly refuses to learn from history...

 

Other Holy books give different accounts anyway, it would be good to read them aswell.

 

 

100 years ago we had no Internet, today we do, that was caused by "thinking, changing and advancing" wouldn't you agree

 

Why is it arrogance to think humans are unique? to even think if we are or not unique to debate about this matter and to have contrasting viewpoints is unique.

 

 

Anyway, the present day version of evolutio theory does not claim we decend from the apes, it claims that we and the apes have a common ancestor. Its not the same. We also know that various other human species, like neandertal, at one time coinhabited the world with homo sapiens. We are just the only ones to survive, the rest went the way of the dodo.

 

There were no other types of humans like us, they were other beings but they didn't share alot in common with us well our most important features, this powerfull brain which even today we cannot fully harness to its optimum power.

 

Our brains are the same size since the time of our first direct ancestors. They had civillizations which were more advanced then certain countries and tribes today.   

 

Seen as though the first humans had our brains maybe they also had a language, one language to communicate with each other. Science today cannot tell us but maybe in the future it could. 

 

Science is not a faith or a constant, in the post-modernist age of thinking everything must be exammined, questioned and approached from every angle, nothing stays the same in Science, new theories and discoveries are always made.

 

The problem with some Darwinists is that they treat it as the total truth and believe in it almost blindly as if it was a religion.

 

 

There is a difference between the "creatianist" theory put forward by people saying the world was created in 6 human days and the now accepted reality by most Physics specialists-proffessors... who have proven that there was a "creation", meaning there was a time when there was Nothing and no time meaning these concepts were created.

 

Also the latest scientific research does point to humans descending from a small group distinct to other species before us. There was a season of programs about this not too long ago on the BBC.

 

 

What is a superiority complex, how is it that we can think and create concepts and understandings to debate about "superiority complexes", if we were all the same we'd have these conversations with our cats and birds in the trees, unfortunately we cannot so this section of the argument is pointless.

 

 

 

Welcome to the divinivication of Darwin...

 

 

Well luckily we have somthing called "intellegence" and have the power to do somthing about it, where-as previous life-forms didn't.

 

This is a very precise example of the superiority complex that makes us blind to the rest of the world. You just proved the point Bulldog. Us not being unique has nothing to do with conversing with other species. Cats do not talk to birds and vice versa, so your argument is besides the point.

 

And for your info, I do have conversations with my cat.