Something that may be new to Muslims

Originally posted by xi_tujue Originally posted by TheDiplomat Originally posted by pekau I was wondering, how could there be so many Muslims in China? I thought they were either Communists, Buddist, or other Chinese religions. How did Islam got into China? Actually, Turkic people adopted Islam as their religion beginning from Talas war of 757 which took place between Arabs and Chinese. Turkic people sided with The Arabs an got to know about Islam. So Islam gained a place in the Central Asian World. Also There are millions of Turkic Uigur people residing in China. Their region is also called East Turkestan.   Check the link.. There are also some good material on Islam in China http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uigur there are also ethiv chinese who are muslim like the HUI According to the 2000 census, the largest of the ten traditionally Muslim ethnic groups in China are the Hui (9.8 million in year 2000 census, or 48% of the officially tabulated number of Muslims). The other nine, in descending order of size, are Uyghurs (8.4 million, 41%), Kazakhs (1.25 million , 6.1%), Dongxiang (514 thousand, 2.5%), Kirghiz (161 thousand), Salar (105 thousand), Tajiks (41 thousand), Bonan (17 thousand), Uzbek (12 thousand), and Tatar (5 thousand). However, individual members of traditionally Muslim ethnic groups may profess other religions or none at all, while Muslim believers may also be found among traditionally non-Muslim groups (one example being the Kache, who are ethnically Tibetan).Muslims are predominatly in the areas thatborder Central Asia, Tibet and Mongolia, i.e Xinjiang, Ningxia, Gansu and Qinghai which is know as the Quran Belt

Edited by pekau - 08-Feb-2007 at 19:16

Yeah, Mao banning religion didn't turn people atheist. Same as in the Soviet Union, people can enforce atheist (or any other ideology) but that doesn't mean people will convert. The 20 million figure is after 1300 years of trade, not 20-30 years of conversion.

Originally posted by Zagros How many more actually call themselves Muslim and live more like heathens? lol. Iran has 300,000 prostitutes from a population of 70,000,000 - now they have customers too!

The Irani government allows prostitutes?


Edited by Omar al Hashim - 08-Feb-2007 at 19:52

Supposedly the government of Iran arranges "temporary marriages" of pleasure for men, which is essentially prostitution.

This is my own subjective estimate for Turkey:

Muslims - 90 %

Atheists, Agnostics, Nontheists - more than 9 %

Christians, Jews, Others - less than 1 %

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Among Muslims...

Muslims, living by the Quran - less than 1 %

Muslims, who comsume alcohol and do other 'prohibited' stuff - more than 99 %



Edited by Feanor - 09-Feb-2007 at 00:49

Originally posted by pekau Against popular misconception, majority of the Muslims around the world do not live in Middle East. (I found it not too long ago...) I was somewhat stunned, but I thought that some of the people interested in Muslim might know this. (I am sure. After all, it's their religion)

Originally posted by Jagatai Khan Originally posted by Feanor Atheists, Agnostics, Nontheists - more than 9 % This looks like too many

Originally posted by pekau I was wondering, how could there be so many Muslims in China? I thought they were either Communists, Buddist, or other Chinese religions. How did Islam got into China?

Originally posted by malizai_ Originally posted by Aelfgifu But being a prostitute does not exclude being a muslima, neither does visiting a prostitute exclude being muslim.�These might not be�very 'good' muslims perhaps, but when they believe they are still muslims. � Agreed. � The number of prostitutes is not surprising for the reasons cited by Zagros. There are many hypocrites in Iran that are circumstantial or incidental Muslims, some�out of convenience I guess. A�significant section of Iranian populace is actually irreligious. It may be a�reaction to the stern control of the regime.�A lot prostitutes working in the UAE and gulf states are Iranian also. I don't think it is because of poverty though. Funnily enough Iran is also the nose-job capital of the world. � Temporary marriages are a Shiite peculiarity and from what i have heard are quite common in Iran.

What does nose job capital of the world have to do with anything!? Are nose jobs against Islam? And are you trying to claim Iranians are perverse by saying that it isn't because these women are poor that they are prostitues? Do you mean to say that so many people become prostitutes as a recreation? Are you kidding me?

What I said is that they also call themselves Muslim, despite their immorality.

Iranian Muslims are no worse than Pakistani Muslims or any other Muslims, least of all Arabs. All of them are hypocritical, alcohol drinking, promiscuous scoundrels save the devout poor and a few honourable others. Just look at the Arab sheikhs or, the so called, Muslim men in the West who think they can do wahtever they want because when they fast, all will be forgiven...

Originally posted by Omar al Hashim There are something like 200 million Indonesians 150 million Indians (although even up to 300 is quoted sometimes, 150 is the census) 150+ million Pakistanis 200ish million Bengalis (less than Indonesia) + Malaysia, the Phillipines and Thailand Thats a minimum 700 million in South - South East asia alone 20 million Chinese (including Uyghur) 30 million Europeans (don't know how Europe is defined) 70 million Turks 60 million Iranis 10 million Americans ------ 900 million + Central Asia, Russia, Africa, of which I have no idea what the population is. Isn't Nigeria's population about 100 million and 60% muslim?