Turkish Professor: Muslims Discovered Ame

 

I was tempted to. But then on second thought, I decided to leave it as it is so as to let the rest of us marvel at its absurdity and to remind us of the unimaginable stupidity of the author.

 

 

You are too soft with the pseudo-historical fanatics. Anyways, you have to realize I have the "absolute" truth, anyways .

 

With respect to the Norse "huts" in Newfoundland's Norse "post", I have to say they were even smaller than a shantytown . There were cities of 200.000 people in the Americas at the very same time, like Chan Chan. Besides, North American Indians build huts as good as the Norse. 

 

Finally, is completely false Norse implanted iron in the Americas. Remember the Norse experience was short lived, and they dissapeared quite soon from North American land.

 

Forget it. The country of Canada was not create by the Norse, like the government of Canada wants to teach the kids at school, but by British and French settlers.

 

 

Pinguin

 

 

 

 

All the other claims of contact are ABSOLUTELY FALSE. Egyptians, Greeks, Japaneses, Chineses, Polynesians, Africans, Irish or even Afghans WERE NEVER in the Americas. 

 

 

 

So this must be an extinct species of mouse, hmmm.

 

 

                             

 

 

This is in the collection of the museum in Jalapa, near Vera Cruz.  The museum there is second only to the National Mus. in Mexico City.  Except the museum in Jalapa only displays local finds and predominately Olmec.  This is just one of several "toys" that are also similar in appearance.  These items were excavated at an Olmec site in the vicinity.  The excavation was done by the museum and the site notes are impeccable.

These artifacts are currently on overseas loan as part of an exhibition of Olmec antiquities.  They are Elephants, no ifs ands or buts.  There have never been Elephants in the Americas, at any time in history.  The craftsman who made these however, knew what they looked like. 

 

When it comes to human capabilities it's wise not to exclude anything.

I think that Turkish professor also mentioned that some immigrant from the old world reached the Americas and settled in small communities. He uses the example of many indigineous locations with the name of Mecca for instance as a proof. On the other hand, though it sounds too much to digest as of now, I looked into the possible explaintation for instance of a city named Mecca in California. The following explaination is given in the following website of the Key sity page of the city of Mecca, California:

History & History Related Items Mecca history: This community was named Mecca after a group returned from the Mideast Mecca where they went to study the date industry. Date palms abound in the area. Return to Index

 

That's just ignorance on the part of certain historians. Native Americans knew the wheel. They didn't apply to transport, though.

 

And they knew a lot of things more, actually thousand more. Some of theirs inventions were copied by the Europeans after the conquist and patented like original inventions.

 

Pinguin

 

 

 

                          

               

 

          I am just trying to point out that contact is very possible, indeed likely.  The evidence for is a heck of a lot stronger than against.  This doesn't mean colonization, or a long term presence, although it is possible, not probable, but possible.  There is enough credible evidence to support the notion of cross Atlantic trade that it is not, among intelligent and educated authorities, as radical an idea as it once was, but, there is always the ethno centric  fringe that will continue to deny any possibility, or evidence that such a possibility exists.  

So I should assume the vikings were educated professors and writers? who said there were no language symbols in West of Africa? who said they don't know how to built boats? does it have to be huge boats? not really.

In any case, I note the following jump-in-conclusion of yours:

 

Originally posted by pinguin Robbing the heritage of Native Americans is the big deal. Any person of the Americas, with a drop of self respect on him, will reject those absurd fantasies.

Calm down here, an ancient contact with the Africans does not mean "robbing the heritage of Native Americans". You sound so offended as if the West African civilizations were sub-human and we cannot at all consider them capable of doing anything except hunting!

 

Originally posted by pinguin No. It isn't. Everything is possible in pseudohistory and children tales

Children tales of Vikings reaching lands of Greenland and the Americas were common before clear evidance were discovered.