Turkish Professor: Muslims Discovered Ame

 

Sami are an Ural-Altaic peoples.

 

 

So are the Hungarians (lingiuistically) or "were" the Huns.

 

and the Koreans

 

So are Koreans

 

Which makes this comment by you

 

Shamanism isn't proof of anything much here.

 

Quite ironic because the groups you listed above have an Urali-Altaic connection.

 

Shaman is derived from the Siberian Turkic languages as an etymology. Shamanism-Tengrism is an ancient religion which has strong ties to the elements of nature, Sky God, Earth/Nature God and so on.

 

The Native American nations religions have ties with the Siberian Turkic people's religions.

 

Also "Shamanism" has for some reason being mis-represented and confused with unrelated religions in other parts of the world which are not connected to each other.

 

Mother Nature, Sky God, Totems, Sun God, Moon God, Shamans being in both worlds, common creation stories, legends and myths can be found among some Native American and Siberian nations.

 

 

There are real ties and connections which cannot just be dismissed because you think it sounds different to what you've "heard" or thought you "knew".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ancient Traditions: Shamanism in Central Asia and the Americas

Seaman, Gary, & Day, Jane S. (editors) (1994).
Niwot, CO: University Press of Colorado and Denver Museum of Natural History.


ISBN: 0-87081-283-1

 

A interesting book.

 

Kızılderililer ve T�rkler (Native Americans and Turks), by Reha Oğuz T�rkkan. 1999, 208 pages. Available from E Yayınları, Klod Farer Caddesi, İletişim Han No.7 Kat 2, 34400 Cağaloğlu, İstanbul, Turkey.

http://www.bilkent.edu.tr/~jast/Number9/Gecim.html

 

 

 

Tengrism

 

 

 

 

Let me use an analogy: words like father, sailor/boat, God, etc, have the same roots in languages in the Indoeuropean language family and are similar in languages like  English, Greek, Persian and Indian. This of course points to the fact that all of the people who created these languages (as they later evolved into) had at some point a common origin, still it does not mean that Indoeuropean is a race. In the same matter the fact that Indians and some Turkic tribes share common linguistic roots does not make neither that American Indians were Turklic nor the Turks are Amerindians.

 

 

In the same matter the fact that Indians and some Turkic tribes share common linguistic roots does not make neither that American Indians were Turklic nor the Turks are Amerindians.

 

However, both have the same root, the two's great great great great great etc etc etc grandfathers and mothers lived in the same area, where part of the same communities/cultures and lived within close proximaty of each other.

 

This connection can best be witnessed with the Shamanic Siberian Turkic tribe also the Tuvans and the Native American Nations.

 

Bg_Turk, the naming of "Turks and Caicous" has many theories, the official one being that the Cacti resembled Turkish hats.

 

Some historians studying Piri Reis have noted that he called an island in the Carribean "Turk", there are Cuban archives and other Carribean archives of Ottoman ships being sited in the Carribean.

 

However, the topic requires more in-depth studies.

 

Well modern-day Mongols wern't in the area at that period. Chinease were in a different area.

 

Koreans and Japanease also have an Altaic connection so its likely also they could have similarities aswell.

 

There arn't hundreds of other ethnic groups in that region, apart from the two above there are Turkic people's. There are today some Russians but they are recent immigrants.

Nenets are Samoyed which are Ural-Altaic

 

Besides all of these communities combined population is barely 100,000.

 

 

 

Everyone claims to be the discoverer of the Americas, so those "theories" does not surprise at all. However, we are looking for the truth in this thread, and the know facts are the following:

 

(1) Native Americans entered the continent between 15.000 to 25.000 years ago. They entered through the Bering strait, either walking of following the coastal lines. They were of mongolian-siberian racial stock.

 

(2) After them, the Inuits entered the Americas around 5.000 years ago comming from Siberia, and populated all the North American Artic. They colonized Greenland as well.

 

(3) The Norse established themselves in Greenland around 1000 A.D. and one post has been found in Newfoundland.

 

(4) All the other claims of contact are ABSOLUTELY FALSE. Egyptians, Greeks, Japaneses, Chineses, Polynesians, Africans, Irish or even Afghans WERE NEVER in the Americas.

 

 

Now, for fantasies, I preffer this of Jack Forbes: The American Discovery of Europe

 

 

 

Pinguin

 

There are people in here interested in the topic. If you don't like it, there are many others in the site

 

Pinguin