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Topic: Worst/Horrible Massacres... Posted: 20-Feb-2006 at 13:18 |
Originally posted by Ahmed The Fighter
I think any Massacre is horrible and abusive,it takes the most expensive thing on earth(people lives).
I beleive there is no worse than, all of it are horrible.
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I agree.
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Posted: 02-Aug-2006 at 03:36 |
Hello all i am new here so this will be mine first post, for meis the Circassian genocide the worst not becouse i am a Circassian but we suffered alot and still we suffering our language is dieing and the whole world doing nothing ignoring us if you guys are interested in Circassian history i am glad to answer you all i know and i invite you also to my forum for answers and questions about Circassians
www.cerkezistan.com
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Posted: 03-Aug-2006 at 11:02 |
Well, Amritsar was certainly appalling- 1919, Brigadier-General Rex Dyer- what a monster.
Then of course there were the Armenian Massacres and the Syraic genocides by the Ottoman empire near and in the first world war
Oh, also Cale, forgive my Ignorance, but is Circassian similar to Armenian or in a different language group?
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mamikon
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Posted: 03-Aug-2006 at 14:04 |
Isnt there a large Circassian population in Abkhazia?
there is also a Russian province now; Karachay-Cherkessia
are the cherkhez peope living here different from Circassians of 200 years ago?
Edited by mamikon - 03-Aug-2006 at 14:06
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Posted: 03-Aug-2006 at 14:11 |
Whenever I think of the word "Massacre", My Lai comes to mind. Terrible, and the pictures are horrible too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_Massacre
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Posted: 03-Aug-2006 at 21:09 |
The 2 worst recent history massacares are the holocost and the Armenian Genocide.Ancient massacares I am undecided upon.
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Posted: 04-Aug-2006 at 08:12 |
The name Circassian is given by outsiders i am not sure but i think Araps gave the name Circassians to Adige-Abhaz tribes and its diffrent than Armenian language and culture, but our culture is similair with the Goergian culture
here a link of a Caucasus map you can see the diffrent tribes http://linguarium.iling-ran.ru/maps/4-circ1860.gif
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Posted: 04-Aug-2006 at 08:19 |
Originally posted by mamikon
Isnt there a large Circassian population in Abkhazia?
there is also a Russian province now; Karachay-Cherkessia
are the cherkhez peope living here different from Circassians of 200 years ago?
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Most Circassians 4-7 milion estimated live in Turkey and i am one of the Circassians who lives in Turkey so our Circassian language is little bit changed than in Caucasus but most are the same
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Posted: 04-Aug-2006 at 11:30 |
Well, the Armenian massacres are a dark page in our history.
Edited by Pacifist - 04-Aug-2006 at 11:31
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Posted: 05-Aug-2006 at 05:31 |
The 2 worst recent history massacares are the holocost and the Armenian Genocide.Ancient massacares I am undecided upon.
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There have been many other terrible massacres in this recent period in history! The Hutsis and Tutsis in Rwanda, The Tianamen square massacre. The Armenian massacres and the holocaust are by no means the only terrible massacres (well, the Holocaust was definatly the worst) The 20th/21st century has been the most violent century EVER
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Posted: 17-Aug-2006 at 05:25 |
I think nobody has said the Indian genocide by USA.
And St. Bartolomew's day massacre.
And the massacres made by Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge in Cambodia.
And inquisition masacres (in Spain, but also in Portugal, Italy or France) and other religious persecutions like in England by Richard I or Elizabeth I.
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I'm sorry but my English is not very good. I'm from Vila-real (Valencia, Spain)
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Posted: 17-Aug-2006 at 07:52 |
Turk massacre in the Balkans. More than 5 million Turks have been killed by the help of Russians, French and Britons by Serbs, Greeks and Bulgars in the second half of the 19th century until 1910.
In WW1, Armenians, by the help of Russian army, massacred around 700.000 Turks in East Anatolia.
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mamikon
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Posted: 17-Aug-2006 at 09:52 |
We are not supposed to discuss this...but your source of the 700,000 is..? (McCarthy I am sure)
as well as the 5 million...
both of those claims have been disproven over and over in various AE threads regarding the Armenian Genocide
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Posted: 26-Aug-2006 at 16:03 |
Originally posted by ATLAS
The largest genocide I know is:
Before Mongolia invaded China, the population of China was 60Million, 164 yrs later when Mongolia was banished from China, China only has 15million ppl. As a revenge, the Chinese army killed as much as Mongolia as they could. Thus, inside the Great Wall there is no Mongolia. |
Mongolia proper (or the nation of Mongolia) has a population of 2.5 million.
Inner Mongolia (which is a part of the People's Republic of China) has a population of 7.5 million Mongols.
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Posted: 26-Aug-2006 at 16:06 |
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Well, the Armenian massacres are a dark page in our history. |
The Armenians also massacred and raped hundreds of thousands of Muslim Turks, Tatars, and Kurds following the demise of the Ottoman Empire.
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Posted: 26-Aug-2006 at 16:20 |
Well i suppose you could get a 'massacre index no.' Numbers dead
divided by time taken in days (in case of years use 365). inaccurate
but still an effective rank.
however its still pretty gruseome to compare massacres and rank them....
i mean nome were particualrly fun to be part of.....
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Posted: 26-Aug-2006 at 17:05 |
I found this list of massacres on wikipedia; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres
Maybe it can be useful to some?
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Posted: 27-Aug-2006 at 23:34 |
I find it hard to messure any massacre.
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Posted: 28-Aug-2006 at 00:46 |
Originally posted by mamikon
both of those claims have been disproven over and over in various AE threads regarding the Armenian Genocide
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Would you care to point to any of those threads where the figures have been as you claim "disproven"? I did provide academic references for these figures, published in reputable scientific journals. 5.5 million Muslims (mostly Turks) were killed between 1820 and 1920 during the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, and as many were exiled. This you cannot deny, and if you try to deny it we will not let you deny it as long as we live. I am growing increasingly exacerbated at your cynical Armeniocentric worldview, and your apparent insistance that only Armenian suffering merits considerations and the title of a Genocide, whereas the Turkish dead must be forgotten and ignored.
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Posted: 28-Aug-2006 at 00:51 |
The worst Genocide is ongoing. People are still being killed in Darfur and are still dying from starvation and exposure.
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