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    Posted: 03-Nov-2004 at 16:11

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  Quote Temujin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Nov-2004 at 13:04
Hitler was not the worst traitor of Germany, he was not German after all, it is Hindenburg who allowed him to take over the government. so he's the one.
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Nov-2004 at 18:50
Could someone explain to me how Jefferson Davis and other Confederates can be considered traitors, since secession is a legal right guaranteed by the US Constitution and since their rightful country was unjustly invaded by outside forces.
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Nov-2004 at 03:44
 France, worst traitor : Jacques Doriot, more Nazi than the leaders of the Third Reich Themselves...
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  Quote sephodwyrm Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Nov-2004 at 20:16

Well, in China, Wang Jing Wei was the accepted traitor who surrendered to the Japanese and became the puppet government under the Japanese Empire.

Now, I think Lee Teng Hui fits in pretty nicely. He's a loyalist to Japan, but a traitor to China.

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  Quote Yiannis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Nov-2004 at 01:11
Originally posted by sephodwyrm

Well, in China, Wang Jing Wei was the accepted traitor

Wasn't it Pu Yi (sp?), the puppet emperor in Manchuria?

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  Quote coolstorm Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Nov-2004 at 06:35

"Wasn't it Pu Yi (sp?), the puppet emperor in Manchuria?"

Wang Jing Wei was the puppet President of southern China.

I agree that Lee Teng Hui is a major traiter.

So is the Taiwanese seperatist President Chen Shui Bie

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  Quote sephodwyrm Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Nov-2004 at 13:55

Chen Shui Bian is the accepted HYPY spelling. But he's not good enough as a traitor yet compared to Lee.

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  Quote coolstorm Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Nov-2004 at 15:08

"Chen Shui Bian"

I am really bad with Mandarin ping ying. I guess that's a common weakness of people from Hong Kong but some certainly can do pretty well. I always come up with some weird romanization of my own. I can't do either the Mainland way or the Taiwan way of romanization. Sorry about that.



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  Quote sephodwyrm Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Nov-2004 at 15:52
Its ok. Don't worry about it. I'm sure it will improve with practice.
I relish the fact that the old Chinese Taiwanese guys who are pro-Indepedence in my unit likes to call me Chen Shui Bian.
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  Quote Slickmeister Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Dec-2004 at 17:04
Originally posted by Evildoer

Canada really dosn't have any famous traitors because it is not worth betraying! lol!

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  Quote Murph Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Dec-2004 at 19:00

Originally posted by Genghis

He was a visionary he knew that the key to the future was industrialization, and government promotion of business.

it's interesting how everyone praises jefferson as president, but america has really followed the ideals of hamilton and that is what has led them to greatness. if we had followed jefferson's vision, we would be a nation of farmers

oh, and by the way, kerry isn't a traitor...are you a right wing who doesn't like his views or a left who thinks he's a traitor because he lost?



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  Quote Slickmeister Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Dec-2004 at 19:13
I am a right wing but that is not the reason. I do not like his views because his views on morality is wrong and his priorities are offset. He is a traitor by trying to put his unAmerican views on us.  
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Originally posted by Slickmeister

I am a right wing but that is not the reason. I do not like his views because his views on morality is wrong and his priorities are offset. He is a traitor by trying to put his unAmerican views on us.  

IIRC the USA used to be based on freedom, not on "If you don't agree with me you're a traitor"
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  Quote Murph Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Dec-2004 at 19:19
Slickmeister, what's an example of an un-American view, since you seem to be the one who decides what an American view is?
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Dec-2004 at 19:52

Originally posted by Slickmeister

I am a right wing but that is not the reason. I do not like his views because his views on morality is wrong and his priorities are offset. He is a traitor by trying to put his unAmerican views on us.  
IIRC, in another forum, you indicated your disgust with Bush 43.    just curious, who did you vote for, if you had voted ?

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  Quote Yiannis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Dec-2004 at 01:20

I have deleted offensive and groundless posts against certain politicians.

Slickmeister, consider this as a warning!

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  Quote Slickmeister Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Dec-2004 at 16:30
Originally posted by imok

Originally posted by Slickmeister

I am a right wing but that is not the reason. I do not like his views because his views on morality is wrong and his priorities are offset. He is a traitor by trying to put his unAmerican views on us.  
IIRC, in another forum, you indicated your disgust with Bush 43.    just curious, who did you vote for, if you had voted ?

Honestly, I have no clue what you are talking about. I did not indicate any disgust toward Bush 43. Must be some one else. I voted W

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  Quote Infidel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Dec-2004 at 21:10
I'd say D. Pedro for declaring the independence of Brazil.
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