Rapist sentenced to 20 years

Originally posted by �ok ge� Originally posted by Constantine XI With his case no punishment can fully compensate, even with "eye for an eye" style punishments. He raped and he killed, you can't produce a sentance that will deliver that much loss to him. True won't necessary compensate the losses, neither executing him. However, punishing him will teach others. I wish his sentance was reduced from execution to life in prison. Let him rotten the rest of his life in a single jail room.

Yes, the sad thing about these capital crimes is that there really is no sufficient remedy to fit it. In legal studies they taught us that in sentencing justice should have 5 key aspect at its most basic level. It must rehabilitate, punish, deter others, remove a threat to society and encourage the people to abide by the law. Rehabilitation isn't able to be fulfilled here, but the other four criteria can be fulfilled well enough with a severe punishment.

I think a lifetime of jail rape, lack of freedom etc would be worse than a quick death. My problem with life sentences is that they are so expensive, paying for his food, entertainment, shelter and guards (VERY expensive), medical bills etc is simply a drain on society. I am opposed to life sentences because of that, unless they make the person in question labour in economically productive activities.

Genghis, I like your solution.

It wouldn't surprise me. They're going very right-wing. One of their politicians openly said Muslims were a cancer.

Ehh just another case of extreme alpha male behaviour, these things have stopped surprising me anymore but yeah he should probably get life in jail instead.
Now think about this:
Imagine if these type guys who are currently serving long sentences in the jails of the world got out one day simulaneously and were let lose in our gentle modern society. God be with you, your relatives but especially with your wife and daughers.

Originally posted by Styrbiorn Be glad he wasn't tried in Sweden; he'd have a "naughty,naughty!" and three months conditional sentence.

This is so ironic that I dont know should I laugh or cry but this scenario actually happened in here Finland to Hazim Delic and Esad Landzo.

Both men were working(Delic second in command and Landzo a guard) in the consentration camp in Clebicin, Bosnia Herzegovina.
They were prosecuted for numerous rapes, assaults, murders, unlegal arrests and unhumane treating of prisoners.
For example beating a 70 year old man to death and then nailing the party's metal insignia to hes forehead. Burining genitals with a fuse. Lanzo forcing two relative men to have sex with each other while other prisoners watching. The list goes on and on.


Hazim Delic and Esad Landzo were senteced by The Hague.
The total years were Delic for 67 years and Landzo 57 but according to the tribunal each of the convictions could be sufferd simultainiously so the final convivtions were Delic for 18 years and Landzo for 15 years. After they were sentenced they were transfered to Finland and according to Finland's (perverted)law they will probably suffer two of third from their sentence. This means Landzo may be free next year and Delic during this decade.

Back stabing humanity in Finland 2003!

Oh God, Hazim Delic was a monster. Landzo as well, but Delic especially. You know he actually had a crowd of more than one dozen supporters protesting on his behalf, for him to be acquitted?

Celebici might have been a small camp, given the size of the others operating on the territory of Bosnia and Herzegovina between 1992 and 1995, but they certainly made up for it with their tortures.

Here is a complete list of the indictees charged with war crimes, it's not completely up to date in terms of sentences but it's worth looking at.

Rahim Ademi
Croatian army general, ethnic Albanian

Milan Babić
Croatian Serb, prime minister of Republika Srpska Krajina
Sentenced to thirteen years for his part in ethnic cleansing

Haradin Bala
Kosovo Albanian, Kosovo Liberation Army prison camp guard      

Idriz Balaj
Kosovo Albanian, Kosovo Liberation Army special unit commander        

Beq� Beqaj
Albanian indicted for contempt of the tribunal for allegedly interfering with witnesses in the case against Fatmir Limaj and Isak Musliu

Vidoje Blagojević
Bosnian Serb, Bosnian Serb Army officer
Sentenced to 18 years for involvement in the Srebrenica massacre

Tihomir Bla�kić
Croatian, Croatian Army general convicted, partially dismissed in appeal, since released

Janko Bobetko
Croatian
Chief of staff, Croatian army
indicted, died before the case could be heard

Ljube Bo�kovski
Macedonian
Interior minister of Macedonia
for Ljuboten attack

Lahi Brahimaj
Kosovo Albanian, Kosovo Liberation Army        

Ljubomir Borovcanin
Serb indicted in Srebrenica case

Goran Borovnica
Serb indicted in Prijedor case

Miroslav Bralo
Bosnian Croat            

Ivan Čermak
Croatian army general awaiting trial

Mario Čerkez
Croatian sentenced to 15 years for offensives in La�va Valley, Bosnia

Hazim Delić
Bosnian Muslim, Bosnian prison camp deputy commander
Sentenced to twenty years, found guilty of murder & rape

Rasim Delić
Bosnian Muslim, Bosnian Army General      

Vlastimir Đorđević
Serb army general
     
Đorđe Đukić
Serb indicted for shelling civilian targets, died before case was tried

Stanislav Galić
Bosnian Serb indicted for Sarajevo; sentenced to 20 years ; appeal pending.

Milan Gvero
Bosnian Serb indicted for Srebrenica

Ante Gotovina
Croat, army general      

Momčilo Gruban
Serb indicted in Omarska Camp case

Sefer Halilović
Bosnian Muslim for massacres in the villages of Grabovica and Uzdol, Bosnia

Ramush Haradinaj
Albanian
prime minister of Kosovo indicted for action while regional commander of the Kosovo Liberation Army

Gojko Janković
Bosnian Serb      

Goran Jelisić
Serb
convicted

Dragan Jokić
Bosnian Serb sentenced to 9 years for involvement in Srebrenica massacre

Miodrag Jokić
Serb admiral in Yugoslav navy
sentenced to seven years for the bombing of Dubrovnik

Drago Josipović
Croat convicted for the massacres in Ahmići-�antići

Radovan Karad�ić
Montenegrin, former President of Republika Srpska
Genocide,Crimes against humanity,Violations of the laws or customs of war & Grave breaches of the Geneva conventions of 1949      

Du�ko Kne�ević
Serb indicted in Omarska Camp case

Dario Kordić
Croat sentenced to 25 years for offensives in the La�va Valley, Bosnia

Radomir Kovač
Serb convicted

Momčilo Kraji�nik
Bosnian Serb
prime minister of Republika Srpska
     
Milorad Krnojelac
Bosnian Serb, Bosnian Serb prison commander
Sentenced to fifteen years for the Foca prison camp

Radislav Krstić
Bosnian Serb, Bosnian Serb Army general
Genocide, Crimes against humanity & Violations of the laws or customs of war
Sentenced to thirty five years (Originally forty six years)

Dragoljub Kunarac
Serb convicted

Esad Lanzo
Bosnian Muslim convicted

Vladimir Lazarevic
Serb army general
     
Fatmir Limaj
Albanian    
 
Sreten Lukić
Serb
Serbian police general
     
Mladen Markač
Serb awaiting trial

Milan Martić
Serb prime minster of Republika Srpska Krajina
     
�eljko Meakić
Bosnian Serb indicted in Omarska Camp case

Radivoj Miletić
Bosnian Serb indicted for Srebrenica

Milan Milutinović
Serb
President of Serbia indicted for incidents while in authority during Kosovo War

Dragomir Milo�ević
Bosnian Serb indicted for command of siege of Sarajevo

Slobodan Milo�ević
Serb
president of Serbia, president of Yugoslavia indicted for incidents while in authority during Kosovo War

Ratko Mladić
Bosnian Serb, Bosnian Serb Army Commander of the Main Staff     Genocide,Complicity in Genocide,Crimes against Humanity & Violations of the laws & customs/war     
    
Darko Mrđa
Bosnian Serb, Bosnian Serb police unit commander
Sentenced to 17 years

Mile Mrk�ić
Croatian Serb, Yugoslav Army Colonel, Later Republika Srpska Krajina Army Commander
Indictment in relation to Vukovar

Isak Musliu
Kosovo Albanian, Kosovo Liberation Army commander      

Mladen Tuta Naletilić
Bosnian Croat, Bosnian Croat paramilitary          

Dragan Nikolić
Serb, Bosnian Serb Prison Commander
Indicted in the Susica Camp case
Sentenced to twenty years

Drago Nikolić
Bosnian Serb, Bosnian Serb Army Officer indicted in the Srebrenica case    

Dragan Obrenović
Bosnian Serb, Bosnian Serb Army Lieuttenant-Colonel
Sentenced to seventeen years

Dragoljub Ojdanić
Serb, Yugoslav Army Chief of Staff indicted for incidents while in authority during Kosovo War    

Naser Orić
Bosnian Muslim, Bosnian Muslim Army commander of Srebrenica     Violations of the laws or customs of war    

Vinko Pandurević
Bosnian Serb, Bosnian Serb Army general indicted in the Srebrenica case    

Neboj�a Pavković
Serb, former Yugoslav Army chief of staff indicted for incidents while in authority during Kosovo War    

Biljana Plav�ić
Bosnian Serb, former President of Republika Srpska
plead guilty, Sentenced to eleven years

Vujadin Popović
Bosnian Serb, Bosnian Serb Army Lieutenant colonel indicted in the Srebrenica case

Miroslav Radić
Serb, Yugoslav Army captain            

Mitar Ra�ević
Serb        
  
Nikola �ainović
Serb, Former deputy prime minister of Yugoslavia indicted for incidents while in authority during Kosovo War    

Vladimir �antić
Bosnian Croat
Freed on appeal

Vojislav �e�elj
Serb, President of the Serbian Radical Party (SRS)          

Du�ko Sikirica
Bosnian Serb, Bosnian Serb prison commander
Sentenced to fifteen years

Veselin �ljivančanin
Montenegrin, Yugoslav army battalion commander related to Vukovar    

Mićo Stani�ić
Bosnian Serb, Former Bosnian Serb interior minister
Crimes against humanity and Violations of the laws or customs of war    

Vlajko Stojiljković
Serb, Former Serbian interior minister
Indicted with Slobodan Milosevic
Commited suicide before trial

Pavle Strugar
Montenegrin, Yugoslav Army general sentenced to eight years for command authority in bombing of Dubrovnik

Du�ko Tadić
Bosnian Serb, Serbian Democratic Party leader in Kozarac and member of paramilitary force
Sentenced to twenty five years

Miroslav Tadić
Bosnian Serb, Chairman of Bosanki Samac 'Exchange commision'           sentenced to eight years in the Bosanski �amac case, given early release

Johan Tarculovski
Macedonian, Macedonian police officer
for Ljuboten attack    

Stevan Todorović
Bosnian Serb, Bosnian Serb police head for the municipalty of Bosanki Samac
Sentenced to ten years

Savo Todović
Bosnian Serb, Bosnian Serb prison commander            

Zdravko Tolimir
Bosnian Serb, Bosnian Serb Army assistant commander
Crimes against humanity and Violations of the laws or customs of war    

Mitar Vasiljević
Bosnian Serb, Bosnian Serb paramilitary
Sentenced to twenty years, Found guilty of crimes against humanity

Zoran Vuković
Bosnian Serb, Bosnian Serb Army soldier
Sentenced to twelve years, Found guilty of rape & torture

http://www.notfah.com/wiki/International_Criminal_Tribunal _for_the_Former_Yugoslavia


Edited by Mila

they have a couple of names up naser orics is still on trial and hallilovic i think was just aquited 

There, I went back and bolded the Bosniaks, Vulkan. Now they should be more clear.

Oh civil war drives me CRAZY! It doesn't bother me from the West, they're thinking...civil war within Yugoslavia. But when they say civil war within Bosnia and Herzegovina, that's just stupid.

The first soldiers to attack Bosnia and Herzegovina en masse crossed from the "Serb Republic of Krajina" (Croatia). That's three countries involved the first week. And loads more found their way in.

Well there are loads hiding, but they've already lowered the scale.

The Bosniaks who were indicted were indicted for charges far less significant in SCALE - not in brutality, in SCALE - than their Serb counterparts. Serbs who did what these Bosniaks are charged with won't even be arrested, it was so common.

So they basically went after the top rungs of criminals from each group. If they had said, for example, we're only going to convict those who committed genocide - there wouldn't be a single Croat or Bosniak up there.