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    Posted: 14-Aug-2005 at 13:48

Yeah older. If we were to consider the oldest as the most reliable ones, we should have been studying Enuma Elish in religion classes.

Anyway, I guess that would be the best....
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Originally posted by Kenaney

also ive heard of people claiming that the bible says the earth is 5000 years old... is this nonsens true?


Some literalists, very popular in the USA but fortunately despised as mere jerks in the rest of the world, believe that the Bible is true to the letter, no matter what science may say. Consequently they have added up the figures of the lives cited in the Genesis and other books and concluded that (with some discrepancies) the Garden of Eden existed c. 4500 BCE. As "obvioulsy" Yaveh created the Earth a few days before... the Earth can't be older than that and all that science that says that this our beloved planet has 4 billion years of existence is nonsense. For them a simple text is more accurate than any scientifical knowledge and they are working hard to forbid the teaching of the Theory of Evolution in schools and replace it by their Biblical creationist fantasies.

Still, they could be not far from the truth in a way, provided that the myth of Eden actually has something to do with the Sumerian pastures of Edin, where maybe the forebears of Abraham went with their goats and sheep c. 3500 years ago... but this is more like the accidental coincidence of the advisory titles of some films.

If this is true, bible needs to get updated man btw a new expansion pack or something


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Shame on you!!!

You are not authorized to discuss about the facts told by the word of Allah. We believe in Him and His Book. May be information in The BIBLE IS WRONG

How could you detect that?. ISLAMIC FAITH REQUIRES BELIEVE IN THE TORAH AND THE BIBLE WITHOUT DOUBT. IT REMINDS THAT THEY ARE FALSIFIED AND REWRITTEN BY HUMANS. THAT IS WHY OUR GUIDE IS QURAN.

IT IS THE BOOK OF PERFECTION AND HAS NO MISTAKE.

I  condemn you. peace of ALLAH be upon you.

Now I can understand how you can kill mllions of Muslims in Iraq, In Bosnia, In Balkans and in other parts of the world. You are biased and you attempt to show your misinformation as the truth. QUIT IT

MODERATORS PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD. AS A MUSLIM I AM REALLY INSULTED AND OFFENDED AND IT HURTS ME: THAT IS NOT SOMETHING DEBATABLE, IF IT KEEPS BEING DISCUSSED. ENMITY BETWEEN TWO RELIGION WILL GET PROFOUND. 

 

 

 



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Tangriberdi
We where (me and Maju in this case) talking about the nonsens in some bibles like the earth is 5000 years old. This is added in SOME bibles in USA lol

Misunderstood the post of Maju i guess.



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weird, If  you follow quran so fine, Tangriberdi
arent  you thinking that Kurds are our brothers, and we should not care, If someone is turk or kurd?

Islam is banning racism.

 
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Originally posted by Tangriberdi

Shame on you!!!

You are not authorized to discuss about the facts told by the word of Allah. We believe in Him and His Book. May be information in The BIBLE IS WRONG

How could you detect that?. ISLAMIC FAITH REQUIRES BELIEVE IN THE TORAH AND THE BIBLE WITHOUT DOUBT. IT REMINDS THAT THEY ARE FALSIFIED AND REWRITTEN BY HUMANS. THAT IS WHY OUR GUIDE IS QURAN.

IT IS THE BOOK OF PERFECTION AND HAS NO MISTAKE.

I  condemn you. peace of ALLAH be upon you.

Now I can understand how you can kill mllions of Muslims in Iraq, In Bosnia, In Balkans and in other parts of the world. You are biased and you attempt to show your misinformation as the truth. QUIT IT

MODERATORS PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD. AS A MUSLIM I AM REALLY INSULTED AND OFFENDED AND IT HURTS ME: THAT IS NOT SOMETHING DEBATABLE, IF IT KEEPS BEING DISCUSSED. ENMITY BETWEEN TWO RELIGION WILL GET PROFOUND. 

 

 

 

 

How is the Qu ran different from the Bible and the Torah in this respect?  All three are written by people hence why they are books. Therefore all 3 have equal chance of being wrong.
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I changed the title, is it ok? If the content of this thread bothers you, please ignore it or give opposing views.
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Originally posted by Tangriberdi

Shame on you!!!

You are not authorized to discuss about the facts told by the word of Allah. We believe in Him and His Book. May be information in The BIBLE IS WRONG

How could you detect that?. ISLAMIC FAITH REQUIRES BELIEVE IN THE TORAH AND THE BIBLE WITHOUT DOUBT. IT REMINDS THAT THEY ARE FALSIFIED AND REWRITTEN BY HUMANS. THAT IS WHY OUR GUIDE IS QURAN.

IT IS THE BOOK OF PERFECTION AND HAS NO MISTAKE.

I  condemn you. peace of ALLAH be upon you.

Now I can understand how you can kill mllions of Muslims in Iraq, In Bosnia, In Balkans and in other parts of the world. You are biased and you attempt to show your misinformation as the truth. QUIT IT

MODERATORS PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD. AS A MUSLIM I AM REALLY INSULTED AND OFFENDED AND IT HURTS ME: THAT IS NOT SOMETHING DEBATABLE, IF IT KEEPS BEING DISCUSSED. ENMITY BETWEEN TWO RELIGION WILL GET PROFOUND.    



Everything can be discussed: science and truth are the essence of human thought (what is obvioulsy the most precious divine gift, if you happen to believe in God).

Everything is debatable. If you don't like it, you can always ignore the arguments of those that do want to debate it  - or find better arguments to support your own position. I prefer the second option, obviously because I think that absolutely everything is arguable and nothing should be left out of debate and scientifical scrutiny.

What has made the West (and other regions and countries too) scientifically advanced is that acceptance that everything can be discussed and investigated. Some have opposed it but, like the shaman praying for rain in the middle of the desert, have failed to propose anything better. It's the old dilemma between myth and science.

(Note: I don't deny all value to myth... but after all is just a story, whichever its merits).

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Originally posted by Tangriberdi

Shame on you!!!

You are not authorized to discuss about the facts told by the word of Allah. We believe in Him and His Book. May be information in The BIBLE IS WRONG

How could you detect that?. ISLAMIC FAITH REQUIRES BELIEVE IN THE TORAH AND THE BIBLE WITHOUT DOUBT. IT REMINDS THAT THEY ARE FALSIFIED AND REWRITTEN BY HUMANS. THAT IS WHY OUR GUIDE IS QURAN.

IT IS THE BOOK OF PERFECTION AND HAS NO MISTAKE.

I  condemn you. peace of ALLAH be upon you.

Now I can understand how you can kill mllions of Muslims in Iraq, In Bosnia, In Balkans and in other parts of the world. You are biased and you attempt to show your misinformation as the truth. QUIT IT

MODERATORS PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD. AS A MUSLIM I AM REALLY INSULTED AND OFFENDED AND IT HURTS ME: THAT IS NOT SOMETHING DEBATABLE, IF IT KEEPS BEING DISCUSSED. ENMITY BETWEEN TWO RELIGION WILL GET PROFOUND. 

 

 

 

If we can not even discuss, nothing can be solved. Is that any better?
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Posts: 267 		  Quote Tangriberdi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Aug-2005 at 08:42
You may be right. Perhaps I am overreacting, I think I misunderstood before reading the whole. Sorry for provoking the discussion.
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