Countries� contributions to European civilisation

In a rash act of supreme subjectivity, I decide to compose a ranking of European nations that, throughout history, have graced the 'ultimate' civilisation of the known world. There are 7 ranks and in each rank,  the more important contributors are followed by the lesser ones:

1st: Greece, Italy, France, Germany. (Decisive)

2nd: England, Russia, Spain, Autria, Poland. (Significant)

3rd: Portugal, The Netherland, Sweden, Hungary, Czech-Bohemia, Ireland, Denmark. (Important)

4th: Scotland, Swizerland, Ukraina, Lithuania. (Quite important)

5th: Belgium, Norway, Finland, Romania, Slovakia, Serbia, Bulgary, Armenia, Croatia, Albania. (Somewhat important)

6th: Luxembourg, Cyprus, Geogia, Slovenia, Macedonia, Latvia, Malta, Bosnia, Estonia, Wales. (Diversity is fun)

7th: Monaco, Liechstentein, San Marino, Turkey, Andora. (Excuse me???)

Did I forget anyone?

 

Edited by Lohendrin

I agree the turks are very important for Europe, I think is decisive

You should also stick England in the top rank. In terms of historical impact, they are tough to beat. Turkey should be in the 3rd or even 2nd rank.

England and Scotland should be just Great Britain and be put at the top.

Exactly what Turkey contributed for civilization in general?
England Germany and France being on the top is simply a joke as well.

Many of the countries which contributed  to what we call call European Civilization  havent been from Europe either.

Europe wouldn't be Europe without the influence of the Carthaginians,populations of Asia Minor,Egypt,  Persia,Chinese, Indians,Arabs, and those are just few.
Midle Eastern Civilizations existed when Europeans,especialy the Northern & Western one's, where still in the caves with the bears.

I believe that it does not really whether a country contributed more or less.What it really matters is that it contributed,with it's own way.Europe is like a puzzle,so the smaller piece has the same significance with the great ones.Without it,you cannot finish it.

Originally posted by Justice Exactly what Turkey contributed for<span style="font-weight: bold;"> civilization</span> in general? England Germany and France being on the top is simply a joke as well.

And exactly how have for example Greece have had more influence than France and Germany? The modern Europe is founded on French legal codes, French and English ideas of the enlightenment and French, English and German technology. Germany dominated the technological development from the late 19th century up to WWII (look where the Nobel prizes used to end up). I'd say that France and Germany have had a far larger hand in the foundation of Europe than Greece have had.

You cannot compare the Hellenic influence with influences concerning technology,because were really Hellens and the Hellenic civilization contributed was in the human spirit and arts.

And science. Many cornerstones of Greek science remained accepted knowledge right up to the rennasaice and enlightenment, even when they were wrong, of course the stuff that was right is still with us, as well as the linguistic influence.
Thats a long lasting and cumalative influence.

Ah, so philosophy, theology, maybe the odd reformation or two?