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    Posted: 29-May-2005 at 02:50
For the same reason that the Welsh don't insist they are called Cymry, the Dutch don't insist they are called Nederlanders, the Finns don;t insist they are called Soumi, and so on. Of course, they all like it when you do.
Namely they take it for granted that different peoples have different names in different languages. Linguistic diversity and all that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-May-2005 at 12:08
Originally posted by Phallanx

Let's see, well according to the Turkish Sun God theory,
Greece is actually a corruption of the Turkish words GARA AY KOZ that mean "black moon eye'
Crazy theory

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Hellens
Romaioi
Greeks
No one name have root  in their native mother thounge language


You may receive some light (knowledge), dear friend. Where? but from Hellas.

Hellas= 'elios' + 'laas' =  sun + rock =  literally  meaning "land of sun"
metaphorically 'land of knowledge' (light=knowledge)

Graikos = Graia = (grey) name for the inhabitants of Graia a town in Boeotia. Just like Hellines was used at one time to describe the inhabitants of a town in Thessaly.



i recall you once said Greece = Greqi (albanian).... Gre (woman) ... qi (do)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-May-2005 at 16:05
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i recall you once said Greece = Greqi (albanian).... Gre (woman) ... qi (do) [/QUOTE]

Nope, wasn't me. You've obviously either making that one up or you're thinking about someone else, since I'd never say that kind of stuff.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-May-2005 at 17:05
Originally posted by vulkan02


i recall you once said Greece = Greqi (albanian).... Gre (woman) ... qi (do)


LOL, so, according to vulkan02, Greece means "a woman's (hair-)do"!!!

Sometimes linguistics can take us to long voyages...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-May-2005 at 17:26
Hellas= 'elios' + 'laas' =  sun + rock =  literally  meaning "land of sun"

This is my opinion dear Sir
If Hellenes is PIE for settlers
then what Hellas as possible meaning could hide ?
Logic is that all the settlers have had settled in the parts all around
after they having migrated into  the pointed places  and  made 
Helllas or an area where a group of families live together
from the my mother tongue ,comparation is
Hellas
*H->X->K'S
K'SEllas
(-K)'Sellas
SellAS
'Sella/s
Sella-vilages in plural
where singular is
SellO
SellO +AS ->  as adopted word  for  from singulare to plural
Sellas



for the people what have made a migration to come in at  the area

or Ella - Come here ,( we share the same word with the  same meaning dont we
  )

 the common name of Hellas could have the Macedonian meaning of
Hellas or vilages  as read  uder the letters
And my gues is that after they establish their city -states  had  they started to identified themselves  ,as a possible by now days meaning of country recognise  via
the  Moon Goddess of Hellene or *HelLunae  what does receive shine from the Sun
again my Macedonian

Hel-
K'Sel
Sel
e-je-ije
Sijel
Sijael
Sjail -> has been shining
or Sjaj-> shine 




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-May-2005 at 18:04
Originally posted by Homer MakeDonski

Hellas= 'elios' + 'laas' =  sun + rock =  literally  meaning "land of sun"

This is my opinion dear Sir
If Hellenes is PIE for settlers
then what Hellas as possible meaning could hide ?
Logic is that all the settlers have had settled in the parts all around
after they having migrated into  the pointed places  and  made 
Helllas or an area where a group of families live together
from the my mother tongue ,comparation is
Hellas
*H->X->K'S
K'SEllas
(-K)'Sellas
SellAS
'Sella/s
Sella-vilages in plural
where singular is
SellO
SellO +AS ->  as adopted word  for  from singulare to plural
Sellas



for the people what have made a migration to come in at  the area

or Ella - Come here ,( we share the same word with the  same meaning dont we
  )

 the common name of Hellas could have the Macedonian meaning of
Hellas or vilages  as read  uder the letters
And my gues is that after they establish their city -states  had  they started to identified themselves  ,as a possible by now days meaning of country recognise  via
the  Moon Goddess of Hellene or *HelLunae  what does receive shine from the Sun
again my Macedonian

Hel-
K'Sel
Sel
e-je-ije
Sijel
Sijael
Sjail -> has been shining
or Sjaj-> shine 




Well, this way I can make many names too...
Take for example the english word "fish"

The ending -ish means "of the like" or "of the kind" in english.
The first letter "f", usually (as in the "f word") means to "procreate".
So the word "fish" then means "like procreating" = "pretending to procreate" = "having sex for fun".
Therefore, "fish" means "having sex for fun".

The above is as fishy as your own etymological analysis.

Also: Your FYROMski word "ella" = come, comes from the arabic "yalla" = to come.
The Greek word "ela" = come, is short of the word "elthe" (where "th" is the letter theta) = come.
So, no relation there.

Now go to sleep
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Well, this way I can make many names too...
Take for example the english word "fish"

The ending -ish means "of the like" or "of the kind" in english.
The first letter "f", usually (as in the "f word") means to "procreate".
So the word "fish" then means "like procreating" = "pretending to procreate" = "having sex for fun".
Therefore, "fish" means "having sex for fun".

The above is as fishy as your own etymological analysis.

Also: Your FYROMski word "ella" = come, comes from the arabic "yalla" = to come.
The Greek word "ela" = come, is short of the word "elthe" (where "th" is the letter theta) = come.
So, no relation there.

Now go to sleep


Of course that you or anybody else can make a lot of word  researches
what most of all must to be well grouded

now you have to  think how you could 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-May-2005 at 18:23
Well, I saw your way of providing grounds for your suggestions, and I used exactly the same method: I took it out of my arse
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-May-2005 at 18:32

Originally posted by Menippos

Well, I saw your way of providing grounds for your suggestions, and I used exactly the same method: I took it out of my arse

   

A mathematician is a person who thinks that if there are supposed to be three people in a room, but five come out, then two more must enter the room in order for it to be empty.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-May-2005 at 18:45

Originally posted by Homer MakeDonski

Hellas= 'elios' + 'laas' =  sun + rock =  literally  meaning "land of sun"

This is my opinion dear Sir
If Hellenes is PIE for settlers
then what Hellas as possible meaning could hide ?
Logic is that all the settlers have had settled in the parts all around
after they having migrated into  the pointed places  and  made 
Helllas or an area where a group of families live together
from the my mother tongue ,comparation is
Hellas
*H->X->K'S
K'SEllas
(-K)'Sellas
SellAS
'Sella/s
Sella-vilages in plural
where singular is
SellO
SellO +AS ->  as adopted word  for  from singulare to plural
Sellas



for the people what have made a migration to come in at  the area

or Ella - Come here ,( we share the same word with the  same meaning dont we
  )

 the common name of Hellas could have the Macedonian meaning of
Hellas or vilages  as read  uder the letters
And my gues is that after they establish their city -states  had  they started to identified themselves  ,as a possible by now days meaning of country recognise  via
the  Moon Goddess of Hellene or *HelLunae  what does receive shine from the Sun
again my Macedonian

Hel-
K'Sel
Sel
e-je-ije
Sijel
Sijael
Sjail -> has been shining
or Sjaj-> shine 


Seriously now Makedonski guy, when i think i have read the stupidest post ever, you just go and post another.

In future kindly proofread your posts before assaulting unsuspecting readers of this message board with a litany of gibberish, egregious grammatical errors, and other verbal atrocities.

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Or go to sleep
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Seriously now Makedonski guy, when i think i have read the stupidest post ever, you just go and post another.


 maybe never before you  have  faced  possibilities of my mother's
 tongue  and indication of exactness what  Macedonian words could have as its possibilities

If you pointed me what is stupid in my opinion and why is stupid I could try to express my self on better way



In future kindly proofread your posts before assaulting unsuspecting readers of this message board with a litany of gibberish, egregious grammatical errors, and other verbal atrocities.



For  future and not for a long,   I hope  it will not be  associating with  all mention gramatical errors  ,and so far it is  as it is ..

 Yet ,Hopeful  should be  understandable that villages are  much   older then City States  are







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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-May-2005 at 19:37
Tralalalala-lala-lala.....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-May-2005 at 19:39
express my self on better way

express myself in a better way- the right way to say it.

Sorry it is the TEFL instincts in me!!

It is ok to make grammar errors but I think their focus was on the content. Keep working on your English skills though!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-May-2005 at 19:44
Why do you insist associating the greek language of Makedonia with this language of yours that has absolutely no relation to this region?
Makedonski is closer to Macaronski.
The dialect spoken in Makedonia is a beautiful dialect of Greek, called Makedonika Ellinika.
All others are nothing but toothpaste...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-May-2005 at 22:26

SinceFYROMians are  slavic, and slavs didnt arive in the balkans until round the 5th and 6th century, how do you, FYROMians trace any history to alexander and his "macedonia"?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-May-2005 at 22:40
Originally posted by Phallanx

[QUOTE =vulkan02]
i recall you once said Greece = Greqi (albanian).... Gre (woman) ... qi (do)


Nope, wasn't me. You've obviously either making that one up or you're thinking about someone else, since I'd never say that kind of stuff.
[/QUOTE]
nope i remember it very well i think it was a discussion about albanian being/not being indo-european and u added this.... i simply thought it was funny... creative imaginations tho
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-May-2005 at 22:41
Originally posted by Menippos

Originally posted by vulkan02


i recall you once said Greece = Greqi (albanian).... Gre (woman) ... qi (do)


LOL, so, according to vulkan02, Greece means "a woman's (hair-)do"!!!

Sometimes linguistics can take us to long voyages...


hey blame phallax's imagination not mine
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-May-2005 at 23:54
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Don't balme me for your vivid imagination. As I said before, but you obviously neglected to read it. as i SAID:
" I'd never say that kind of stuff."

So please inform me exactly where and when I said anything similar to this,  I honestly would appreciate it, unless you've mistaken some kind of sarcasm and literally believed it. Then dear friend that is your prob not mine.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Jun-2005 at 01:35
phallax im pretty sure YOU said it ... i wouldn't think of it unless i heard it from someone  and as the posts prove you pretty good at making sense at foreign words  too.  You might have said it a sarcastic way of course cuz that name wouldn't make sense unless you knew YOU said it. But yeah you might have said it in a sarcastic way ( I hope ) Anyways lets just kill it although it might have been Mollosos ... but im pretty sure it was you.
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