Vinca Symbols

Hello,

Concerning the Vinça symbols: I am a researcher specializing in prehistory and ancient history. For several years I've been studying the so-called Vinça-Tordos culture, as well as other, similar ancient civilizations of the Balkans and the Danube.

After considerable research, I have come to the conclusion that the Vinça symbols actually represent a syllabic script. This linear form of proto-writing would be the first ever created by man, unless we consider the sporadic Palaeolithic signs and symbols to also be remnants of a formal script.

If you wish, I can send you further information.

Maybe clay tablets suffered the natural fire?!?!?Ancient children wrote on clay tablets with

I suppose Egyptian kids learned to write,were Vinca symbols...

Originally posted by benzin The tartaria tablets found when there were no archeologist around, in a pit wich was already searched before, it was the closing of that day's search.

Vlassa, the one who discovred them, was an archaeologist.

so, even if there is a lot wich is clearly original the ones at tartaria is not 100% sure. I may accept that they are not fakes, but how can we be sure after knowing the circumstances. Still dont believe me ?

They have been dated (or the archaeological environment they were found in) with C14 and found to be 7300 years old.

And what purpose could have Vlassa to falsificate these tablets? He initially even didn't know how old they are or what they represent.


I've read more about the Vinca signs and it seems it was a primitive form of writing, although not phonetic, only symbolic.



Edited by Menumorut - 04-Aug-2012 at 20:10

V=Co could be palm digits number which is 5 still(even if is rotated),III is God=BoGo=Spiritual Body!As I told you before I am working with Ancient Egyptian now.
P.S.
Only God can walk arisen everywhere:I I I(The First Her)On Earth-Beneath the surface-On Heaven!GoSPoDa=Master's sign is ///(Mother's on Earth/beneath it/on Heaven) pushed down in front of God!!!


Edited by medenaywe - 07-Aug-2012 at 14:41

Originally posted by red clay Originally posted by benzin Its Tatárlaka and not Tartalaka first of all. You have to know that the findings of Tatarlaka, the symbols in the clay may be fake. The archeologist got them from one of his workers, they were unburn clay, and they burnt it. Therefore its age is impossible to find out, also its originality. Of course they may be original, but because of these reasons its doubted by many. If you think you found out something interesting let us know. I know some historicians I can ask if its worth to.     I don't know where you obtained that information, but it's false.  There are many examples of these symbols on tablets.  This smells of deliberate misinformation by someone.  They perhaps have an agenda of there own. Benzin, could you provide us with a source for this info.

Sure. You can read about it in english here :
http://www.prehistory.it/ftp/tartaria_tablets/tartaria_tablets_10.htm

The tartaria tablets found when there were no archeologist around, in a pit wich was already searched before, it was the closing of that day's search.
A restorer baked the tablets in an electric oven after that !!

so, even if there is a lot wich is clearly original the ones at tartaria is not 100% sure. I may accept that they are not fakes, but how can we be sure after knowing the circumstances. Still dont believe me ?

Originally posted by benzin Its Tatárlaka and not Tartalaka first of all. You have to know that the findings of Tatarlaka, the symbols in the clay may be fake. The archeologist got them from one of his workers, they were unburn clay, and they burnt it. Therefore its age is impossible to find out, also its originality. Of course they may be original, but because of these reasons its doubted by many. If you think you found out something interesting let us know. I know some historicians I can ask if its worth to.

 

 It's now looking more and more likely that what I have is accurate, so I'm currently writing a paper on it all to submit to the Bulgarian and other museums. I must admit to being a quite cynical person, but even I'm beginning to be overwhelmed with certainty - a dangerous thing in archaeology:) It's one of those silly thing that you don't realise how obvious it is until well, you've realised how obvious it is.

 As I say above, I'm an amateur, so even beginning to assume that I have a meaning of the Tartalaka set and the origin of many other previously unknown symbols is a bit odd to say the least. What interests me just as much is how it illustrates the nature of the civilisation and its motivation. Fascinating stuff if it's true, but we'll see.

Originally posted by Nick1986 The Vinca alphabet, like many other ancient civilisations, has a swastika. It's thought this was derived from a comet passing exceptionally close to the earth thousands of years ago http://www.omniglot.com/writing/vinca.htm

I think there are very few and isolated discoveries with these signs and there is no proof that it was an alphabet, maybe just some decorative intentions. Also, there is no proof that the use of these signs continued later.

Swastika is a decdorative sign used in almost all cultures. For example, this is a Cucuteni pot. The well documented and studied Cucuteni culture (5-4th millenia BCE) didn't use writing.

 I'd prefer not to at this stage to be honest. There are many reasons for this, but primarily this is something I've come across literally in the last two days and so I'm still in the process of going back over everything I have to see if it pans out. I'd also like to continue exploring for myself, as right or wrong, I can't deny that I haven't felt this excited for years:)