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    Posted: 31-Aug-2018 at 10:30
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Aug-2018 at 03:38
the disputes among people about jengizhan/timurlane origins whether they were subhuman asians or ubbermensch caucasians shows that nowdays civilisation came to the the dead end of evolution, islamic-judeo-christian culture together created fully atheistic occult world, where ideology is put above human beings, i think again the utter world need bloody purgation in the form of second appearance of jenguizhan. in the book of tarihi jahangusha of atamelik juveyni clearly mentioned that among mongols the most dreadful sin was immersion in satanistic-homosexual magic, mongols poured red-hot lead into the throat of them, additionaly as the great communist writer Maxim Gorkiy said - """Remove all homosexuals from the world, and the nazi ideology will by itself dissapear"".
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I don't know what you saw in those profiles that indicates occult connections. I didn't see anything.

I'm surprised at you bringing the Nazis into this, esp. trying to tie the swastika to the supposed "aryans".

The swastika has been used by many cultures over thousands of years, mostly as a symbol of good luck or positive protection and isn't confined to Asia. The swastika appears in several cultures in North and South America, notably the Hopi and Navajo.

I don't mean to be insulting, but considering the content of the rest of this thread, your post doesn't make much sense.




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Just thought I'd point something out here on this old post. It's a long-standing belief of Nazi occultists that the Aryan race has a 'certain special relationship' with particular groups of people in Asia. One of the most obvious examples of this is the use of the swastika.

The two individuals on this thread who are promoting this the most heavily, have clear occult connections in their profiles. The post above mine even quotes a German text which discusses a "nordic" connection. 

Do the math folks. 
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GENGHIS KHAN

The Mongol leader Temujin (AD 1167-1227), better known by his title Genghis Khan (Universal Ruler), was a man of strongly Nordish racial ancestry. According to the Persian historian Ab ul Ghasi, the tribal clan to which Temujin belonged, were known as the Bourchikoun (Grey-Eyed Men). [Günther (1934) 185; Lamb (1928) 22.] The ancestral mother and founder of this clan was known as Alan goa (beautiful Alan). According to the Mongol and Chinese legends on the subject, she was said to have been visited in her tent by a divine being, who possessed golden hair, a fair complexion and grey eyes. Shortly after this visitation, she gave birth to the first member of the Bourchikoun clan. [Günther (1934) 184.]

Temujin himself was noted in Chinese descriptions of him, for his tall stature and heavy beard. [Günther (1934) 185.] We should also note the following depiction of Temujin's appearance, as given by Harold Lamb, in his biography of the great Khan:

"He must have been tall, with high shoulders, his skin a whitish tan. His eyes, set far apart under a sloping forehead, did not slant. And his eyes were green, or blue-grey in the iris, with black pupils. Long reddish-brown hair fell in braids to his back." [Lamb (1928) 23.]

Ab ul Ghasi also observed that the family of Yesugai, the father of Temujin, were known for the fact that their children often had fair complexions, and blue or grey eyes. [Günther (1934) 185.] Temujin's wife, Bourtai, bore a name which means "Grey-Eyed". [Lamb (1928) 23.] As both Günther (1934) and Lamb (1928) note, Temujin's relatives and descendants also possessed fair features: Temujin's son and successor Ogadei (1229-41), had gray eyes and red hair; Temujin's grandson Mangu (1251-9), had reddish eyebrows and a red-brown beard; Subatei, who conquered China, had a long, reddish beard. Indeed, it was said that people were surprised Kubilai Khan had dark hair and eyes, because most of Genghis Khan's descendants had reddish hair and blue eyes. [Günther (1934) 185.]

TAMERLANE

Another of Genghis Khan's descendants, the great conqueror Tamerlane (1336-1405), also inherited Nordish racial characteristics. According to a contemporary, Ibn Arabshah, Tamerlane was tall and strong, with broad shoulders, a large head and high forehead, he had a heavy beard, was white-skinned and had a ruddy complexion. He also seems to have been fair-haired. [Günther (1934) 187; Lamb (1929) 153.]

This description has been confirmed in recent times. In 1941, the Soviet Archaeological Commission opened the tomb of Tamerlane, which resides in the city of Samarkand, Uzbekistan. Within it, Tamerlane's physical remains were discovered: they proved that he had indeed been a man of strong build and imposing stature. Most interestingly of all however, the last few hairs of a reddish-brown moustache were found adhering to the skull. [Brent (1976) 237-8.]

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Do portraits prove that Genghis Khan was predominantly Mongoloid? There are various images which depict Genghis Khan with the distinctively Mongolian epicanthic eyefold. However, it should first be noted that all such images were executed many years after the Khan's death, by artists who never actually laid eyes upon him. The portrait below, taken from the Imperial Palace Museum, Beijing, is just one example. [Paludan (1998) 152.] Many others exist, painted by unknown artists, at an indefinite period of time. The provenance and value of such works for racial classification, is therefore rather feeble. Put simply, the accuracy of these images cannot be vouched for.

Genghis Khan?
[Paludan (1998) 152]

Equally, we cannot rely with great certainty on the judgement of the portraitists. As Day correctly comments, there is always the ethnic bias of the artist to contend with, since "artists perhaps tend to give their subjects something of their own physical traits". [Day (2001) 360.] A vivid illustration of this fact can be found in the portrait below, of the nineteenth-century American seaman, Commodore Perry. This contemporary picture, by a Japanese artist, depicts Perry as strongly Mongoloid in type, with a definite epicanthus. Perry, of course, was entirely Caucasian, yet the artistic conventions of the Japanese make him appear otherwise. Thus, we must be extremely cautious when accepting such "portraits", quite literally, at their "face value".

Commodore Perry
[Smith (1979) 231]

Were the ancient inhabitants of East Asia entirely Mongoloid? Craniological evidence reveals that during the second millennium BC, Caucasians were predominant throughout much of Central Asia, and they maintained hegemony over several areas in the region. Thus, as Day notes: "Caucasoids not only outnumber[ed] Mongoloids in Xinjiang; they also predate[d] them." [Day (2001) 192.] Even into later eras, a Caucasian minority, strongly "Northern European" in physical type, was retained. [Day (2001) 138.] The Buddhist murals at Bezeklik (see below), in the eastern part of the Tarim Basin, near the Mongolian border, bear witness to the fact that just over a thousand years ago, rugged Caucasoids, with reddish-brown hair and blue eyes, could still be found in abundance. [Day (2001) 138-9.] Eickstedt argued that these murals depict individuals of Nordic and "Proto-Nordic" (protonordoidem) type. [Eickstedt (1934) 276.] At this point, it would be germane to remember the fact that it was precisely these features (reddish hair and blue eyes) that were found as an ancestral inheritance among the family of Genghis Khan.

Mural from Bezeklik
Mural from Bezeklik
[Day (2001) ii]
[Barber (1999) xxix]

Do the experts agree that Genghis Khan was red-haired and blue-eyed? The German physical anthropologist Egon von Eickstedt, who was an expert on the racial types of Asia, stated clearly that the ruling classes of the Far East, most particularly those among the Mongols, included Nordic racial elements. He affirmed that Genghis Khan's family was characterised by its blue eyes and reddish hair, and that although Kubilai Khan (1259-94) had a ruddy-fair complexion, he had hair and eyes that were unusually dark for Temujin's clan. Eickstedt even noted that Temujin's grandson Batu (†1256), the first Khan of the Golden Horde, was freckled! Therefore, there is nothing at all extreme or unusual in attributing Nordish physical features to Genghis Khan: on the contrary, it is an historical fact, well-attested to by the major authorities in this field of expertise. To conclude, here is the original quotation from Eickstedt on the subject, with my emphasisadded throughout:

"Aber auch noch später machte sich dieprotonordische Komponente in Chinabemerkbar, denn sie wurde selbstverständlich auch von den im Mittelalter China erobernden Barbaren der westlichen Steppen noch mitgeführt. Das hat offenbar sogar besonders für deren Oberschichten gegolten. Ein Beispiel dafür ist der berühmte Kaiser Kublai Khan, der Gönner Marco Polos, von dem eine rötlich-weiße Komplexion ausdrücklich berichtet wird. Aber trotzdem war Dschingis-Khan, der Eroberer Asiens, nicht etwa d a r ü b e r erstaunt, sondern im Gegenteil über die relative Bräune des Kaisers, da ja „die meisten Mitglieder seiner Familie sonst blaue Augen und rötliche Haarehatten!“ Dabei war Dschingis-Khan, der „Kaiser der Welt“ — und er war es beinahe wirklich, der einzige, der je diesen Titel mit einem gewissen Recht trug —, selbst rassisch höchst interessant. Denn er entstammte dem Geschlecht derBuschikun oder Grauäugigen, einem unter allen Stämmen Zentralasiens weitverbreiteten Herrscherclan, und wird geschildert als hochgewachsen, mit weißlicher, schimmernder Haut, mit grünen oder grauen Augen, die nicht geschlitzt waren, und mit langem,rötlichbraunem Haar, das ihm in Zöpfen über den Rücken fiel. Seine vom Vater gewaltsam geraubte Mutter Yühlun war sibirischer (sibirider?) Herkunft. Man kann nur schließen, daß in den Adern dieses größten Abenteurers und Machtmenschen aller Zeiten auch Blut aus nordischer Quelle floß. Seine Erst- und Lieblingsfrau war Burtai, die „Grauäugige“. Weiterhin wird der bekannte Prinz Batu auch alssommersprossig geschildert." [Eickstedt (1934) 274-5.]

BIBLIOGRAPHY

Barber, E. W. (1999) The Mummies of Ürümchi(London: Macmillan).

Brent, P. (1976) The Mongol Empire: Genghis Khan, His Triumph and His Legacy (London: Weidenfeld & Nicolson).

Day, J. V. (2001) Indo-European Origins: The Anthropological Evidence (Washington, DC: Institute for the Study of Man).

Eickstedt, E. von (1934) Rassenkunde und Rassengeschichte der Menschheit (Stuttgart: Ferdinand Enke Verlag).

Günther, H. F. K. (1934) Die nordische Rasse bei den Indogermanen Asiens (Munich: J. F. Lehmanns Verlag).

Lamb, H. (1928) Genghis Khan: The Emperor of All Men (London: Thornton Butterworth).

Lamb, H. (1929) Tamerlane: The Earth Shaker(London: Thornton Butterworth).

Paludan, A. (1998) Chronicle of the Chinese Emperors (London: Thames & Hudson).

Smith, B. (1979) Japan: A History in Art (Tokyo: Toppan Printing Company).



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Good stuff. But I expect you to provide references and or citations indicating copyright especially on the photos. If the text work is your own that's fine. If not.... it's normal procedure. To avoid conflicts of interest and accusations of plagiarism.

It's a basic requirement of any historian lay or professional. And in abiding by these basic tenets; you then earn more credibility in the production and promotion of your work.
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4,000 YEAR OLD LOST TRIBE

One of the most fantastic finds in the last half of the twentieth century, has to be the discovery of a Northern European tribe found in the north east corner of Xinjiang province, near the Celestial mountains and the Taklimakan Desert. This is situated on the edge of the Gobi desert.

The story starts in 1978 when the Chinese archaeologist, Wang Binghus, began searching for ancient sites. He began by following stream beds, and asking the locals if they had ever come across any broken pots and artifacts. He eventually came across a few people who pointed out that there was a place called Qizilchoqa, or, as the local people called it, Red hill. Here he made the most amazing discovery, the first of the mummies. It had been placed in a grave on the side of the hill.

It was a simple site, rush mats were on the floor, and some of the bodies were buried in the foetal position. In effect, the mummies were not what you would call real mummies, in the sense that they were not embalmed. They had been preserved in an amazing way. They had been placed in the ground, which had been subjected to a very unique weather system. Heat, aridity, and bitter winter cold, mixed with a salty soil, had preserved them better than other mummies found around the world. Even the clothing was still perfectly recognisable.

The bodies were excavated and taken to the museum in the city of Urumqi. There were 113 bodies taken from the site. At the time the Chinese government did not have enough funds to excavate the find. Wang eventually discovered three more burial sites.

The faces of the mummies were very well preserved, so, on closer examination, they could see that they were not chinese. They had blonde hair , big eyes, and European noses.

At that time, Chinese tradition had always shown the fact that they believed china had developed independently from the rest of the world. Because of this, the government was reluctant to bring the finds to the public attention.

The most extraordinary thing about the mummies, was the fact that their clothes were in such good condition. A jacket belonging to one man, over three thousand years old, still had a crimson edge. And the women had artificial extensions in their hair.

This tribe was obviously very advanced for it's day. On one of the mummies, there is a scar which shows they had rudimentary skills at operating. It had been sown up with horses hair.

When the West was eventually allowed to visit the mummies , Dr Victor Mair, who was Professor of Chinese at Pennsylvania university, took a tour around the museum. Imagine his surprise when he saw these amazing mummies, which had been kept in a dark room, in glass topped boxes.

At this time, the Chinese authorities were still a bit reluctant to let anybody know about them, so it has taken quite a long time for the the west to be able to study them properly.

eventually in 1993, they were allowed back with a team of geneticists from Italy. And this is when they began to study them properly. They used the most up to date technology of the time to confirm the date of the mummies. They now believe that they are about 4,000 years old, and the youngest about 2,000. There are probably many more to be found, possibly in the same region of china, but it is also possible they could have settled anywhere across China, as long as the conditions were suitable to live in.

These people were from the Bronze age, they were Caucasian, and it is possible that they interacted with the indigenous people at that time. The local people probably taught them their traditions, and the Caucasians most likely introduced them to their way of life as well.

There were two cartwheels found at the burial sites, very similar to what you might find in Russia, or nearby countries. These amazing people were probably Scandinavian or German, it is amazing to think that they trekked across China all the way from Europe, 4,000 years ago, taking their traditions and language with them. How many other tribes were there? who knows.

I think that one of the most fascinating things about this story is that the local people, even today, that live in the area where the bodies were found, speak a language called Tocharian, the most eastern branch of Indo-European. This language is closely related to German and Celtic. I think the other most amazing thing about these people is that they walked all the way across China, taking with them their families, and a mixture of animals, probably goats and sheep. Feeling the cold, and the heat, catching diseases that they didn't know anything about, Not sure whether they would survive the different climate. Babies were born, people died, and all the time not knowing whether they would be safe or if the indigenous people would accept them. Their lust for adventure and discovering new places gave them strength and determination to survive. They were amazing people, and I hope that soon we will be able to see these wonderful discoveries, and learn more about these courageous human beings that came from the beginning of history.


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Hormones in food make miracles,kid of Mala'Kak.Have a nice time here.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Mar-2016 at 00:17
He didn't look like the average Mongol. But rather tall, red hair and blue or grey eyes according to some experts. But this is hard to prove as we know this is not a dominate trait and will always out breed by dark eyed and dark hair people.
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All you have to do to find who the Mongols were is read the book "the Secret History of the Mongols" written in Genghis Khan's time by a Mongol author.

According to the book the Mongols were originally from the Pacific Coast of Siberia. They migrated to Lake Baikal in Western Siberia. Some of Mongols moved South over the mountains from the forest to the grasslands of what is now Mongolia and took up the nomadic lifestyle. Some Mongols stayed behind at Lake Baikal and their anscestor still live around the lake. Genghis Khan was born near Lake Baikal.

The ancient stories and tales about the Mongols in the book sound just like North American Indian Tales.


Originally posted by RAS

Below is a photo of the Mongols who stayed behind at Lake Baikal, they are the Buryats.



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Why don't you go to Mongolia and see how "Caucasian" they look?

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Are you sure about it RAS!?!How do we know dating about manuscripts today?By paper or ink?Most of them are reproductions of "original" which existence could have been proved poorly!I read a book like a small child.
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All you have to do to find who the Mongols were is read the book "the Secret History of the Mongols" written in Genghis Khan's time by a Mongol author.

According to the book the Mongols were originally from the Pacific Coast of Siberia. They migrated to Lake Baikal in Western Siberia. Some of Mongols moved South over the mountains from the forest to the grasslands of what is now Mongolia and took up the nomadic lifestyle. Some Mongols stayed behind at Lake Baikal and their anscestor still live around the lake. Genghis Khan was born near Lake Baikal.

The ancient stories and tales about the Mongols in the book sound just like North American Indian Tales.
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Mongols came from today's Mongolia and all mongolians are mongoloid
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What if Mongolia was occupied by caucasians, and mongolians were raped siberians? Just like brazilian indians are mongoloid does not proved Brazil was found by the mongoloid indians.
 
Mongolians=/mongols, Mongol empire was founded by invading western caucasians, mongolians today are a remnant of siberians who were forced to assimilate.
 
Mongolian mongols were left in mongolia, while the caucasian mongols were ravaging across Eurasia, that is why there is very few caucasian traces left, they were assimilated into mongolian gene pool totally. The western admixtures within modern mongolians prove this. There are 5% R1a, R1b within mongolians, but there is no caucasian female mtdna found.
 
 
 
I read your first post and then this one and I'm now convinced that you're just an uneducated brute. 
 
" caucasian ... assimilated into mongolian gene pool totally "
 
WTF does this even mean? How does the largest army the world has ever known simply disappear due to mixing? 
 
The majority of Mongols are plain Asians , the other 10 % are mixed. In addition to this ,  R1a and R1B aren't caucasian  , your posts are plagued with errors that are so rudimentary that I probably won't even bother reply to them from now on. 


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Originally posted by Wadjet Horus

There is NO reliable contemprary source from either East or West ever say huns were mongoloid, but an official persian historian working for Mongol Empire under Kublai Khan says Ghengis Khan was a caucasian. The misconception about huns and mongols were mongoloid was only spreaded during the colonial ages, when europeans were tended to view chinese, japanese and other mongoloid natives in America and Australia as savages, arrogantly linking them with their much scorned historical huns and mongols, but in fact, the misconception was just like the Nasal Index in indian caste system proposed by british anthropologists, which is totally WRONG and found on deliberate distortion of history.

I challenge everyone of you to find any quote from any source to prove Huns and mongols were mongoloid, if you failed, you must admit europeans are more hunnic and mongolic than east asians. LOL
I'm guessing that you're a Turk. 
 
Rashid Al Din's quotes shouldn't be taken seriously for obvious reasons , take for instance , his quote about Genghis being surprised that Kublai didn't inherit his red hair.
 
1) Red haired people don't EXPECT their offspring to inherit red hair , nobody really expects red hair to be inherited , especially Genghis , who had fathered many children in his lifetime and would have realized long before that red hair wasn't heritable should he actually have had red hair. 
 
In other words , the concept of a red haired man expecting his son to inherit red hair doesn't make sense and is somewhat contradictory. 
 
2)  References to the " Glittering " ancestors of Genghis by a writer influenced by Jewish forms of writing (he was ethnically Jewish) and writing in an epic format don't count as reliable sources , especially since his entire book itself had pictures of squinty asiatics and only asiatics to describe Genghis Khan. 
 
The Mongol movement was essentially an anti-nordic movement.
 
1)  Cease the Nordic expansion into Russia.  Without the Mongols , Russia would have been Nordic.
 
2)  Enslave Russia and use it for the Mongol war machine.
 
3)  Push Asiatic genes to the West.  Even Germans have Asian genes as of today , google " Pennysylvania-German-Deutch project ". 
 
Each of these steps shows an intent to move WESTWARD , also note that the Chinese , Koreans , and Mongolians DON'T HAVE CAUCASIAN DNA while the Europeans east of Germany have been tainted with Asian DNA. 
 
In other words , you're saying that these Caucasians expanded east and mixed with the Asians , thus the following would have to be true. 
 
- these Caucasians were originally West of Germany , perhaps Spanish , since Germans are tainted with Asian DNA , they could not have been these original caucasians since they have been invaded one way or another. 
 
- And you would have trouble explaining why the majority of Asians don't have a single trace of Caucasian DNA. 
 
But the MOST BLATANT ERROR in your post is this - Caucasians don't choose to mix with Asians.  e.g. the Japanese are still Asian. 
 
AND you're saying that eastern and central Europe was originally occupied by the Asiatics.  Which is absolutely preposterous. 


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Santha Faiia is Tamil, not malay.
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Australoid and negritoes heavily influenced modern Indonesian and Malaysian genetics, but they are closer to east asians in spite of their negrito looks. Graham Hancocks wife Santha Faiia is a classic example of negrito from Malaysia:

 
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The australoid people were not indigenous to ancient China, they were confined to the Astralian continent and Melanesian islands, there is no evidence of them northwar migration during the last 10000 years, nor there is any evidence to indicate they were in China before modern mongoloid people.
      I think there is evidence that Australoids were in China, but got absorbed by asiatic peoples.
 Look at the photo of the Tibetan man.  He has a full beard (rare for asians)and his facial features do not seem to be completely asiatic.  Perhaps he is partially Caucasoid from ancient Caucasoid populations in the area, but he also looks like could be partially Australoid.
 
Also, Zhongli Quan, one of the Taoist immortal sages is shown with a full beard and sometimes also with a heavy brow line.   Both of these features are more Australoid than asiatic.  My guess is that Zhong Li Quan was from a declining Australoid population in China.  
 
I think there is evidence of a north ward migration of Australoid peoples in very ancient times.....
 
Many people consider the Ainu to australoids.    Look at these photos and you can see that the Ainu resemble Australian Aborigones.  The Ainu are just lighter complected. http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=0&oq=australian+aborige&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GWYE_enUS330US330&q=australian+aborigines
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Also, Australoid type people were once more common in Japan.  The Emishi (possible australoid group) were once numerous on Honshu but were gradually wiped out / absorbed by the Japanese in the 1200s. http://emishi-ezo.net/
 
Furthermore, there is some evidence that Australoids were present in North America, but got absorbed by Asiatic groups.  In historical times, spanish priests described some California Indian groups as having Australoid features.
 
 
 
Originally posted by Wadjet Horus

My government is still censoring many recent genetic testing results on ethnic chinese populations, since they fear some ethnic independent movements would use the results to challenge majority chinese culture.
I am not surprised.  Though I am not familiar with technical genetic terms, I think some of the genetic studies can be interperted a number of different ways.  I have seen several discussions on this forum get very heated over what genetic study "X"  really says about how closely or how distantly people "Y" and "Z" are related to each other. 
 

 

Tibetan man in the picture is not australoid, he is close to ainu and both he and ainu people are not australoid people, they belong to a proto-mongoloid population, for they are removed further away from european people in genetics than majority east asian people.

Yes, a lot of people of ainu racial type had once populated a considerable part of East asia in very early age of Neolithics.

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Originally posted by Wadjet Horus

The australoid people were not indigenous to ancient China, they were confined to the Astralian continent and Melanesian islands, there is no evidence of them northwar migration during the last 10000 years, nor there is any evidence to indicate they were in China before modern mongoloid people.
      I think there is evidence that Australoids were in China, but got absorbed by asiatic peoples.
 Look at the photo of the Tibetan man.  He has a full beard (rare for asians)and his facial features do not seem to be completely asiatic.  Perhaps he is partially Caucasoid from ancient Caucasoid populations in the area, but he also looks like could be partially Australoid.
 
Also, Zhongli Quan, one of the Taoist immortal sages is shown with a full beard and sometimes also with a heavy brow line.   Both of these features are more Australoid than asiatic.  My guess is that Zhong Li Quan was from a declining Australoid population in China.  
 
I think there is evidence of a north ward migration of Australoid peoples in very ancient times.....
 
Many people consider the Ainu to australoids.    Look at these photos and you can see that the Ainu resemble Australian Aborigones.  The Ainu are just lighter complected. http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=0&oq=australian+aborige&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GWYE_enUS330US330&q=australian+aborigines
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Also, Australoid type people were once more common in Japan.  The Emishi (possible australoid group) were once numerous on Honshu but were gradually wiped out / absorbed by the Japanese in the 1200s. http://emishi-ezo.net/
 
Furthermore, there is some evidence that Australoids were present in North America, but got absorbed by Asiatic groups.  In historical times, spanish priests described some California Indian groups as having Australoid features.
 
 
 
Originally posted by Wadjet Horus

My government is still censoring many recent genetic testing results on ethnic chinese populations, since they fear some ethnic independent movements would use the results to challenge majority chinese culture.
I am not surprised.  Though I am not familiar with technical genetic terms, I think some of the genetic studies can be interperted a number of different ways.  I have seen several discussions on this forum get very heated over what genetic study "X"  really says about how closely or how distantly people "Y" and "Z" are related to each other. 
 


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As for the genetic relationship between east asian mongoloid and southeast asian negritoes and australoids:
 
Google a study:
 
Melanesian and Asian Origins of Polynesians
 
A slow boat migration from southern China since 6000BC is supported by genetic evidences and show how ancient chinese migration influenced native negrito(melanesian) and australoid genetic make up.
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