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    Posted: 07-Feb-2011 at 21:58
Thanks to our "Prodigal", Son!!!

Sort of hits one in the bollocks does it not?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Feb-2011 at 09:42
I was just thinking, how about this being the other way around.  Like, when is the UK going to appoligize for burning Washington DC?  The Whitehouse etc.  Let's examine why the US should hate Britain. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Feb-2011 at 11:30
Maybe it helps some of you see these matters in a more relaxed way if I say that if I, as a (half-)German, were to adjust my personal animosities to my countries history, I would be busy all day.
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This is all a pointless argument. Almost all Americans were originally British, but as the British decided to treat them like they weren't British they revolted. So in truth everyones the bad guy.
As to WWII without the Americans there would be no Britians, and if it wasn't for the Britians the Americans would have been terribly outflanked and would have been beat.
 
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Originally posted by p,c,ma

This is all a pointless argument. Almost all Americans were originally British, but as the British decided to treat them like they weren't British they revolted. So in truth everyones the bad guy.
As to WWII without the Americans there would be no Britians, and if it wasn't for the Britians the Americans would have been terribly outflanked and would have been beat.
 
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!
 
 
 
As I previously stated, the war planners at the time had already assumed that Britain would be overrun.  Plans were formulated on that basis.  The war would have been won without the Britts.  So tell me, how would the US have been "outflanked".
And do you have sources?
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Feb-2011 at 13:37

Control of oil supplies, as well as territory, in North Africa was only protected by the bravery and valor shown by the British at El Alemein.

It could easily be argued that the charge of the soldiers there was among the bravest in WWII if not the bravest.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Feb-2011 at 15:35
Interestingly Hunter, it seems that England may have only avoided a German invasion thru the use of "trickery!"

You may or may not know that hundreds of plywood tanks, aircrart and cannon were stratigically placed around the sea coast of the island, to fool German observers!

From the air, England looked like "Fortress Britain!" Apparently the trickery actually worked, at least long enough for the USA to enter the war, and then the English soon had the ability to place real cannons, etc., along the coastline!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Feb-2011 at 22:39

The British don't have to appoligize for the burning of Washington DC because the USA started the war, if your not willing to have bad things happen to your nation then don't start wars.

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Yes the British used fake plywood weapons to fool the Germans into not attacking Britain, but the British also did the same thing befor invasion of France so the Germans did not know where to but there troops and tanks.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Feb-2011 at 08:28
Originally posted by mynoon

Yes the British used fake plywood weapons to fool the Germans into not attacking Britain, but the British also did the same thing befor invasion of France so the Germans did not know where to but there troops and tanks.


Hmm and according to the logic of this thread I guess it is now my turn to blame you personally for tricking our fine soldiers into sparing your country? You never actually apologised yourself for what those men did two or more generations ago, to most of whom you probably have no connection whatsoever... Shocked

But since I'm quite new to this forum I better avoid scaring people by assuming the position of national socialist germany LOL

As I tried to express with my first post, this line of argumentation is completely absurd. I could even start a personal quarrel with the polish members of this forum for offering that fierce a resistance to our Wehrmacht in world war two, as if it was their responsibility.

This thread will lead to nowhere and the only result will be people blaming each other for utterly unrelated events of the past.

I could develop a line of argumentation based on the fact that all non-africans happen to carry a small amount of neanderthal genes, and take their extinction by (possible) fault of homo sapiens personally, to argue from a victim-position.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Feb-2011 at 08:45
Originally posted by mynoon

The British don't have to appoligize for the burning of Washington DC because the USA started the war, if your not willing to have bad things happen to your nation then don't start wars.

 
 
No, we didn't start the war.  However, we did finish it.Big smile New Orleans is a wonderful place to visit.
 
 
Causes of the war of 1812.Ongoing impressment of American sailors into service on British Navy ships, an insulting breach of American sovereignty; Britain's navy "violating the rights and the peace of our coasts";
Britain's blockade of U.S. ports ("our commerce has been plundered in every sea");
Britain's refusal to repeal its Order-In-Council forbidding neutral countries to trade with European countries, and the British Navy's enforcement of this order;
Britain's incitement of Native Americans (conventionally referred to as "savages") to violence against the Americans.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Feb-2011 at 19:53
I would think that anyone tending to dispute the words of RedClay above, might have a mountain of evidence to over come?

Thanks, red!

Regards

Actually in reality, the war was offically over before the Battle of New Orleans, which was not really fought in the City!

But, you all know just how bad our postal system is today?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Feb-2011 at 22:30
I hate the British because of their horrible food. And the men like to dress like women on TV.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Feb-2011 at 00:22
I can tell you that British food is the best in the world. and have you seen crocodile Dundee. I hate USA because they broke the British empire.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Feb-2011 at 07:27
We did not.Britian lost its own empire.
So first of all you quit blaming others for your mistakes.
Second of all you talk for Britian something you have no right to do.
You can't just randomly start talking for all British against all Americans.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Feb-2011 at 08:49
Originally posted by mynoon

I can tell you that British food is the best in the world. and that have you seen crocodile Dundee. I hate USA because they broke the British empire.
 
 
 
Mynoon, I can give you a lot of room on almost everything you've said to date, except for the food.  Both of my maternal grandparents were immigrants from the UK, and they put some of the worst god-awful things in their mouths.  My Grandmother was a wonderfully spooky old Scots woman who, in her mind anyway, was a wonderful cook.  She well might have been, I don't know for sure as I couldn't eat most of her fare.
And as for the UK in general, how the hell can someone take a beautiful piece of steak, and boil it.
 
Additional-  There isn't anyone in the entire Commonwealth that knows how to cook peas without turning them into acceptable grapeshot.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Feb-2011 at 10:08
It is for sure that there seems to not exist any respected resturant in the world that advertises "Great English Cooking!" as a part of its marquee or menue!! (note that I used the feminine form of the word "menue", so to remind red-clay of his grandmother's cooking!)

Perhaps, if Mynoon is correct, he should open up just such a place in Paris, or Rome, or New York, etc.? I am sure that the lines to get a seat there would stretch for "inches!!"

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Feb-2011 at 10:18
Oh! Above mynoon mentioned Crocodile Dundee! Yep, a couple of very funny movies!

But have you seen Steve Irwin lately?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Feb-2011 at 12:08
Well the USA waited to join ww2, so Britain would be crushed by Germany and bust after ww2, it worked. The USA leader at the time was the guy who could not walk and needed a wheelchair. He said to Chruchill I must wait to join the war, so my nation can get more power after the war. So he knew that after the war Britain would be the only free nation that could stand upto the USA that's why the USA waited. I blame Britain France and Russia for not stopping the Germans befor ww2 not the USA. But I do blame the USA for the slow economic recovery in Britain and France after the war, you gave more to Japan, then you did to Britain and France after the war. Also the USA takes all the credit for rebuilding Germany but Britain and France both has sectors and help with the rebuilding, which means that the USA also gave more money to Germany than to Britain after the war. Also there is the loan that the USA gave Britain after the war for this small loan Britain was forced to back the USA over the reserve currency and over Israel both things would not have been done if the USA had not given Britain that loan. I know I don't speak for all 84 million British people but most of them know nothing about history or politics and just know the USA by singers or actors. they have no right to say that every British person likes the USA when many don't.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Feb-2011 at 12:32
You haven't been to one of the best restaurants or tryed my grandmothers cooking. the scotish can't cook fact.
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