Iranian Languages

Nice diagram dude. Is there something on the internet about these Gathic people and their language? I couldn't find much.

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May,I just ask a question?

Why did all of the above letters change both their character, or their meanining?

It all seems rather contrived?, at least to me!

Edited by opuslola - 11-Jun-2010 at 18:29

Originally posted by Zazagiyan @Ince Persian did lost even in the Middle Persian phase the old iranian pronome for "I". Old Indoeuropean *egHom will be in Old Iranian *ezem, in Avesta ezêm, in Old Persian it will be because of the typical z > d change "edem". But in Middle Persian there was using "ân" for "I" and todays Persian use only "men" for it, which has the meaning of "me". The same process has made Central Kurdish (Sorani) and Southern Kurdish, they also don't know "ez" for "I", they use "min". Persian "ez" (in their alphabet: az) means "from", it shares the same root as Kurdish "ji", which was in Parthian "ej", in Avesta "hechâ".

Originally posted by Miller Vast majorities of foreign loaned words in Persian have a native Persian synonym in modern Persian.

Edited by Quaere Verum - 15-Jun-2010 at 08:31

Originally posted by Ince I have noticed that the word for name in farsi is "Esmeh" it sounds very similar to Turkish and Arabic word for name.   Other iranian languages use Nam or Nav.

Originally posted by kalhur i am speaking kalhor dialect which is very near or simmilar to gorani . sandjabi and ghalkhni  which are south kurdish tribes  dialects and near to sorani  dialect spoken in iraqi kurdestan.  no wonder that you  do not understand  south kurdish dialects.  we may  understand  kurmanji , but speaking  kurmanji even  hawrami and zaza  is impossible for me .  the south kurdish dialects are very mixed or if not drived from  sasanid (pahlavi language) origin, because the region where  we lived was in  the heart of sasanid  empire.(between biseton and ctisfon)

Edited by Quaere Verum - 15-Jun-2010 at 09:03

Originally posted by kalhur then we have a group of language called LEKI spoken in many cities  like , sahane, kangavar , hersin , nahavand upp to hamadan surounding cities of kermanshah, leki is so near kurdish that easily could be understood by kurdi  speaking people rather than farsi speaking and why many times it is classified as a kurdish dialect.

Edited by Quaere Verum - 15-Jun-2010 at 09:33

Originally posted by Ince This because of the way Gorani/Zazaki pronounce words, Kurmanji and Sorani pronounce many words more similar to Persian.

Originally posted by Ince I read once somewhere that it might of been Gord, it was changed Kurd because Arabs can't pronounce G so they used K instead, the same way for Parsi/Farsi.  But it seems unlikey tho. Some claim that Sassanids has names that were similar to Kurdish words, I cannot understand my self and doubt it as well.  Maybe you can. Erdeshīr Ezdigirt Źnoshīrewan Erdewan

Originally posted by kalhur kurmanji spoken in northern parts of iraq and turkey is much more near to persian  than south kurdish dialect, exemple farsi  khadane be zabane  kordi(it is writen khvandan in persian like kurmani ,but spoken khandan!!!) kurmanji kvandena va zemana kordi. my dialect. xwenin wa zwanie kordi