Uyghur-Chinese relations

 

The original Anatolian Turks, the earliest peoples to inhabit Turkey, were the Hitites, then the Celts, and with each successive wave, the original Hitites always mixed with whoever settled in their country. Its part of the reason modern Turks are so strange looking; they have mixed with so many people, that the majority of modern Turks don't associate themselves with any race so they simply call themselves "Turks."

In other words, the Turks are REAL mutts, not like some American airhead who says " Oh, I've got Austrian, German and Italian in me; I'm such a mutt! tehee!" Give a freaking break man; you're only a mut if you are mixed with different peoples, like for example, the Turks. The Turks, are only linguistically related to the current residents of Turkmekistan who, appearance wise, look nothing like modern Turks. The Turks are a mixture of the above mentioned Middle Eastern people but it doesn't end there; one of the peoples the Hitites warred against, were a band of Celtic warriors originally from Central Europe. So....... they also have a little bit of Celtic in there.

 

Then the Persians took it over, they really liked that land, and so they sent colonists, and they too decided to breed with the locals, so now the Turks are a mixture of Greek, Hitite, and Persian. But then Greece under Macedonian rule wanted revenge against the Persians, and Alexander the Great overran it, and conquered the Persian empire. And many Greeks decided to stay in Turkey, so once again the now mixed Hitite, Persian, and earlier Greek mixed turks, mixed with the more recent Greeks.

But then Alexander's empire fell and then Rome rolled along, and they largely left it alone and decided not to breed with them although, there were a small handful of Romans who really liked the country so they stayed there and intermarried, but not in significant numbers. Seeing the prosperity of Anatolia (Turkey), many Slavic tribes escaping the depredations of barbarians from the north, the ancestors of the Vikings the Rus, decided to move south.

So now the Hitite, Greek and Persian mixed Turks, mixed with some Slavs. But then Rome in a typically guido fashion pissed off too many people and thus those people decided Rome should burn, so they burned it. And then Attila and his Huns decided to more or less finish the job, although, Rome was already finished by then. The Central Asiatic hunish hordes really like Anatolia, and so, a band of them stayed, and the Hitite, Greek, Persian and Slavic mixed Turks, decided to breed with them. And thus now the turks are mixed Hitite, Greek, Persian, Slavic, and Central Asian Hunish.

But then finally the Byzantine empire fell, and a band of people from Turkmekistan decided to make that place their home, and like the Huns they were also Central Asian. And thus, the Turks decided to mix with the locals, who were Hitite, Greek, Persian, Slavic, central Asian and Hunish, and because it was a really nice country some Arabs decided they too wanted to join along, and so the turks became a mixture of Hitite, Greek, Persian, Slavic, Central Asian and Hunish, in ADDITION to Arabs.

But it doesn't end there. As if that wasn't enough, people from Kurdistan and the Caucasus mountains, not to mention eastern European Balkan origin Janissaries, decided to mix with the Turks. Thus, the Turks are a mixture of Hitite, Greec, Persian, Slavic from two different fronts, Central Asian from two different Central Asian tribes, and finally, Persian and Arabic.

Again, Turks are only related to the people from Turkmekistan, linguistically. Appearance wise, genetically speaking, they are only partially related to them, so many empires, so many peoples have settled in Anatolia, later called Turkey, that it doesn't belong to any one race, and all races who have ever lived there, lived in relative harmony with one another with the exception of their relationship with the Kurds. So why have so many empires and peoples invaded those lands?

 

 

 

 

AE thread on " Origins of Japanese people "

 

 

There is  the " East Asia indentity " and " closeness " among NE Asian populations but it's hijacked by Japan's Datsu-A Ron 脫亞論 .Also,political rifts and historical events of 19th-20th centuries divide them.

 

 

 

 

 

However, regardless of this, Turks and Uyghurs are still closer to each other than Chinese and Japanese because besides the civilizational values they know of their linguistic, historical and genetic connection which is absent in the Chinese-Japanese case.

 

 

Of-course,on mutual ancestry by percentage but not overall general population 

 

White-Americans and European nationalities are centainly related in this regard but the other 35%-40% non-European origins of US population aren't.

 

 

By the way,foundation of Japanese civilization was " Chinese origin " including their engrained concept of Harmony 以和爲貴.

 

Shotoku's Seventeen-Article Constitution [Jushichijo Kenpo] 十七条憲法

 

 

 

 

 

 

You're lying. Never a person whose first language is Chinese would call Chinese characters "kanji."

 

Even if you're an Asian-American, you first language is English. It's true that most of the young Asian Americans can't speak the languages of their ancestors.

 

And don't brag about how many years you lived there. I met people who have been living there for 20 years and speak not a word of a language.

 

Finally, Asian-Americans look different from real Asians from China and Japan. They look "American." It's also actually very easy to see whether a person is a Chinese or Japanese-American or China-Chinese or Japan-Japanese.

 

So, indeed, if you want to distinguish between Asian-Americans in the US and Canada; it would be some times very hard to say.

 

But if you see a person raised in Japan and compare it to a person raised in China the differnce is more then obvious. The environment has a great influence on the outlook and behavoir of the person.

In Asia itself I don't think that this Asian solidarity really exists. Most of the Chinese people I met in Spain do not feel any connections nor kinship to other Asian nationalities. The Japanese, in fact, are the nationality that they despise the most because of the atrocities of WWII. I don't think the anti-Japanese sentiment is really a creation of the Communist Party. Many of these Chinese I've met say that it's their grandparents who are the die-hard "anti-Japps" because they still have the memory of the genocide committed by the Japanese in China.

 

I just had a check on "Wang Jin Wei". He was considered by the Chinese as a traitor; and his political posture was very marginal at the time: probably similar to the Vichy regime in France who collaborated with the Nazis.