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Sun Tzu
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Topic: to whom should Constantinople/Istanbul belong to Posted: 13-Feb-2008 at 16:12 |
both nations hold a significant claim to the city and region, but which nation do you think should have the city?
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Posted: 13-Feb-2008 at 16:16 |
its istanbul not constantinople. Says it all dos'nt it?
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Posted: 13-Feb-2008 at 16:53 |
Originally posted by Sun Tzu
both nations hold a significant claim to the city and region, but which nation do you think should have the city? |
Whoever is strong enough to hold on to it.
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Posted: 13-Feb-2008 at 18:18 |
One nation holds a significant claim to the city, the other that did stopped existing in 1453, the other splinter in 1463.
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Posted: 13-Feb-2008 at 18:37 |
I put down "other"
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I believe it belongs to the Kingdom of Spain
Edited by Ponce de Leon - 13-Feb-2008 at 18:45
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Posted: 13-Feb-2008 at 18:51 |
Something like Istanbulopolucia?
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Posted: 13-Feb-2008 at 18:59 |
yea something like that
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Posted: 13-Feb-2008 at 19:37 |
It belonged to Eastern Roman empire. Since Roman empire does not exist anymore, Turkey which hold it for more than 5 centuries has the right.
Edited by Suren - 14-Feb-2008 at 20:08
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Posted: 13-Feb-2008 at 20:19 |
Isn't it evident? It should be Italian since us (well actually our ancestors, the Romans) invented it
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Posted: 13-Feb-2008 at 20:37 |
Wasn't it a Megaran colony, thus Megara should annex it as part of their city. Its already on 3 sides of the sea, why not on a fourth one. And then break free and form Megara Land.
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Posted: 13-Feb-2008 at 21:16 |
Originally posted by Challenger2
Whoever is strong enough to hold on to it.
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Oh well said indeed. Realpolitik.
Realistically, only Turkey has a legitimate claim; now if the byzantine empire had survived in the peloponnesos and simply morphed into the new state of greece, then it would have a much stronger claim. Considering this is the modern world one can't make claims on property that was lost 500 years in the past, regardless of sentimental or personal feelings with any hope of them being taken serious. (though I will say WWII had situations where just that occured; based on the current situation only turkey has a claim, if something unforseen/unlikely were to happen that would dramatically change the situation then perhaps greece would become the main claimant)
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Posted: 13-Feb-2008 at 21:30 |
I am not sure about Constaninople. Whoever invents the time machine first should get it, I guess.
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Posted: 13-Feb-2008 at 23:53 |
İstanbul belongs to martians :D
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Posted: 14-Feb-2008 at 02:06 |
Originally posted by erkut
İstanbul belongs to martians :D |
To the Moon People actually
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Posted: 14-Feb-2008 at 02:21 |
The only possible change in the future I could see is the city becoming a Free City, or an independent city-state by itself, due to its unique geographical position.
And this is only possible if nationalistic lines become blurred in convergence of economic blocks where regional economy becomes free to pursue their own developments instead of requiring to be tied back to the national economy.
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Posted: 14-Feb-2008 at 09:24 |
Romania obviously... >.> <.< >.>
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Posted: 14-Feb-2008 at 10:25 |
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Posted: 14-Feb-2008 at 10:53 |
It should belong, obviously, to Turkey. Along with the rest of the Balkans.
Edited by Frederick Roger - 14-Feb-2008 at 10:56
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Posted: 14-Feb-2008 at 16:37 |
Nuh...it belong to the Russians.......
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Posted: 14-Feb-2008 at 18:07 |
Well I don't know a whole lot about the Greek war of independence, but when the Greeks were victorius why didn't they take Istanbul??
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