Historical Linguistics

"Jihad can in interpreted lots of ways, but there are two major ways:

inner jihad, ie the struggle with thoughts and personal spirituality

outer jihad, the struggle with unbelievers and oppressors. This can mean the jihads going on currently in Egypt and Tunisia in the form of rebellion, or it can mean the one going on in Europe and America, the Holy War."

Well "Holy Pig!", I could have written "Holy Cow!", but it did not really seem appropriate to the conversation! Now, perhaps if we were discussing India, etc., it might be out of place?


So, the revolts in Tunisia and Egypt, are inter-Islamic "Jihads?", whilst the ones in Europe and the USA are "Jihads" of a different colour? ( a play on the famous words heard in the movie version of "The Wizard of Oz"! Viz. "a horse of a different colour!")

Well I feel much better now that I can tell the difference between at least two differing versions of "The Jihad!"

Thanks,

But, just one more little thing! Now, by the virtue of my over 3,000 posts, I now hold the exaulted position of a "Caliph!" Does this mean that I am now free to form my own "Caliphate?"

See; http://www.examiner.com/blogosphere-buzz-in-national/glen-beck-s-caliphate-definition-includes-the-muslim-brotherhood-pics

Edited by opuslola - 03-Feb-2011 at 15:57

Dear Copperknickers! And what a cold name you have chosen for your moniker!

So, since your gonads are in a cool place, just why do certain "Imans", etc., cry out for "a struggle?"

Regards, (WoolenKnickers!)

Konstantin! You asked a very good question, and I would guess there exists a few Muslim brothers or sisters on this site? And, I would suppose even a few who actually understand Arabic?

So, I ditto your question, and merely wonder why none has answered?

In the English texts that I have seen "eruere" and "privare" are the most prevalent verbs used to express blinding often with a form of "oculus." What is interesting is that in the texts that I have come across "exoculare" is used strictly for a blinding that occurs during Judicial Combat. When discussing both blinding and castration the two verbs that are used are "eruere" and "abscidere" - to cut out.

So in other words it's still left to my imagination what might be being plucked out here?

Eruare has more of a sense of to pluck out or rip out but doesn't necessarily have to be the removal of a body part whereas exoculare is more generically to blind. If that makes sense? Both, in my research, have been used in discussion of blinding. Eruare might also have been used to describe castration, but I highly doubt it.

Originally posted by gcle2003 I know what the words mean. That's the trouble.

Why is that a problem? I know what those words mean as well.

I know what the words mean. That's the trouble.

Originally posted by King John ...after is one of my interests as is the development/usage of different words for punishment like eruare, exoculare, amputare, and/or castrare.

Originally posted by King John Yeah, I've read some of his other stuff, but I did like Listening for the Text. I never would have thought that I would be interested in linguistics of any sort but the more languages I learn to read the more interested I get in it.