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    Posted: 07-Sep-2007 at 21:14
Originally posted by Romanus Maximus

 
Pinquin, the Brtish rock band Yes, are definately not African.
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Pinquin, the Brtish rock band Yes, are definately not African.

Get your facts right.
 
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Originally posted by Aster Thrax Eupator

...Yet another race-inspired post. What does it matter if he was Black? Afrocentrism seems to be in the air...
 
I dont understand your objection to this topic.
 
Hardly the most important topic in the world, but I don't see anything wrong in discussing it.
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...Yet another race-inspired post. What does it matter if he was Black? Afrocentrism seems to be in the air...
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he was not a nodic thats for sure. The thing is even if he was dark skinned it dose not mean anything. Mediterrainian's and Mid Easterners like Severus have a wide variety of skin tones.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Severan_dynasty_-_tondo.jpg

This is the wood carving which has been mentioned earlier on in this thread, it certainly shows Severus to have dark skin, very much darker compared to his wife and also his young son Caracalla, as you can see his other son Geta has been erased from the carving, most likely on the orders of Caracalla.

The busts really don't reveal anything about race, the fact they are mostly white is irrelevant really.
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Originally posted by pinguin

Originally posted by Laelius

well there's plenty of people who are called African American who have European features despite there dark skin. 
 
That's because Mulattoes, Quadroons and Octoroons in the U.S. call themselves Black, forgetting they are MOSTLY European
 
Originally posted by Laelius

As for the bust well I've seen one of Scipio Africanus done in black marble, does that mean he was black?
 
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Aborigines have a distinct look...

Tell that to the Papua New Guineans.
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Aborigines have a distinct look...
 
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Yes, Septimus Severus, Cleopatra, Gengis Khan, Jesus, Moctezuma, Plato, Beethoven, Eric the Red, Sidartha and Elvis they were all Black Africans.
 
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Ots not that they choose to forget, its that according to the law as stated by the govenment, it doesn't matter. And as recently as 45yrs ago in many places in the South, they could have been killed if the stated that fact publicly.
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He is my favourite emperor BTW. The first really imperial one.
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Originally posted by Laelius

well there's plenty of people who are called African American who have European features despite there dark skin.  As for the bust well I've seen one of Scipio Africanus done in black marble, does that mean he was black?
 
 
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Originally posted by Lannes

There has been much debate on this issue.  Though to me, he appears to have distinctly caucasian facial features....

 

 
Just becuase a person may appear to have "distinct features", doesnt mean that the person is caucasian, black, or any other race for that matter. No single race that has EVER existed on Earth, has a "distinct" "look".


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Originally posted by Laelius

well there's plenty of people who are called African American who have European features despite there dark skin. 
 
That's because Mulattoes, Quadroons and Octoroons in the U.S. call themselves Black, forgetting they are MOSTLY European
 
Originally posted by Laelius

As for the bust well I've seen one of Scipio Africanus done in black marble, does that mean he was black?
 
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Aug-2007 at 16:24
Oh no. I was wondering when this topic would be rediscovered by the afro centrist crowd. He was not black!
 
 
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Septimius Severus was of African origin.  History is clear on the fact that his family was of North African origin, with some Punic admixture.

At the time, North Africans, Libyans (as he was), were Berbers: that is to say, that they were neither "Caucasians" (Europeans)  nor "Negroids." (Sub-Saharan groups of Africa.)

Berbers are  of a "Mechtoid" type, unique to North Africa. Septimius Severus, by his features and body type was clearly a light-skinned  North African Berber of the mechtoid type.
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I heard that Severus was an ethnic Carthaginian, meaning he was more Phoenician than anything else.  His sister didn't speak Latin very well, so the family continued to use Punic most of the time when talking among themselves, even after he became emperor.  It's a good thing Cato ("Delenda Carthago est!") never saw this!
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