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Imperatore Dario I
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Topic: The Most Conquered Country! Posted: 06-Feb-2005 at 07:04 |
Greece. Greece has been invaded several times and was not independent since the Roman invasion to 1831.
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YusakuJon3
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Posted: 06-Feb-2005 at 07:09 |
I think at this stage, Iraq takes the prize. Pretty much since
the the time of Sumer and Babylon, it's been dominated by one
army or another. Compared to that, even Palestine is a
distant second.
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Komnenos
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Posted: 06-Feb-2005 at 08:32 |
Originally posted by Imperatore Dario I
Greece. Greece has been invaded several times and was not independent since the Roman invasion to 1831. |
Surely the time, Greece was part of the Byzantine Empire
must count as period of independence. The Empire was certainly in the last seven centuries more Greek than Roman.
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Posted: 06-Feb-2005 at 08:35 |
We should call it Mesopotamia
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Posted: 06-Feb-2005 at 09:33 |
Probably Iraq, at least in terms of many different conquers and rulers.
Sumerians Akkadians Assyrians Babylonians Hittites Chaldeans Elamites Achaemenids Alexander Parthians Romans Sassanids Byzantines Muslims/Caliphates Seljuk Turks Il-Khanate Tamerlane Ottoman Turks Safavid Empire ... too many to list |
Are you sure about Byzantines?
But Gutians, Kassites, Hurrians, Medians, Seleucids, Buyids, Zangids, Jalayirids, Turkmens (Kara Koyunlu & Ak Koyunlu), Afsharids, Mamluks and British can be added to this list too.
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Komnenos
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Posted: 06-Feb-2005 at 09:49 |
And the Americans!
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Posted: 06-Feb-2005 at 09:58 |
it definitely seems like its mesopotamia. its been around the
longest and seems to have been the crossroads of civilization for many
years
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Posted: 06-Feb-2005 at 12:02 |
i say the area which is Iraq now.
BTW there is no such ancient land called Israel, there was a Kingdome of Israel more than 2700 years ago and there is a State call itself Israel from the last 56 years.
that land called Palestine and the land of Cannan before . Israeli or sons of Israel lived there for a period of time so did others.
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Posted: 06-Feb-2005 at 14:34 |
I still say Lebanon wins with Iraq close behind, sure Iraq may have had more different nations conquer it, but if you look at the amount of times Lebanon was conquered, and count how many times the same peopel re-conquered it...they win.
I mean the Egyptians alone had to reconquer it every time a new Pharoah came to power, that sure adds up over time.
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Posted: 06-Feb-2005 at 21:01 |
The area south of Gobi desert(present day Inner Mongolian Autonomous
Region) was always contested between the Nomads north of it, and the
Sino people south of it. Plus the Turks from the west and
Jurchins/Manchus from the east had their share too.
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Posted: 06-Feb-2005 at 21:12 |
I'd rather say the most conquered country is korea,not only by the military force,and spirit of culture was wholely rebuilt or influenced.
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Posted: 06-Feb-2005 at 21:31 |
Israel without doubt. Have been conquered by almost every superpower of the old and dispersed around the world.
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Gubook Janggoon
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Posted: 06-Feb-2005 at 23:39 |
Originally posted by Elanjie
I'd rather say the most conquered country is korea,not
only by the military force,and spirit of culture was wholely
rebuilt or influenced. |
Culture wholely rebuilt? I'd tend to disagree. Most
historians tend to agree that although Korea has been taken quite a few
times it has always managed to maintain it's own distinct cultural
identity...
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Posted: 07-Feb-2005 at 00:42 |
I would have to say greece
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Posted: 07-Feb-2005 at 03:07 |
By number of conquerors: It has to be Iraq... two dozen names have been already mentioned by other posters - and this land practically never lived by self-rule of it's inhabitants, every now and then someone would jump up and add them to his empire or kingdom or emirate or (in the light of the most recent developments) "sphere of influence".
Palestine is a close second. It too has seen a host of conquerors from the wake of time until today - many people seem to forget that the Hebrew themselves have conquered (and reconquered, after WW2) this area (irregardles if we count Canaa in Palestine).
Anatolia is up there as well. Has been conquered (all or parts of it) among others by the Hittite, Cimmerian, Persian, Greeks, Gauls, Roman, Seljuks, Ottomans and many, many others over time.
The Helladic area has lived many years under a single foreign ruler (first the Romans, who were disposed by the Greeks in the course of the "eastern" half of the Roman Empire and then the Turks) and for a very brief period of time the Germans. Maybe you could add the Bulgarian as well, although the never really established themselves in southern Greece and only ruled briefly the Northern part (Macedonia and Thrace). The whole area of the Balkans has the same, more or less, history of many rulers.
Of western Europe: Iberia was a playground for several upstarts in the great game of "grap your neighbors land": Carthagenians, Romans, Goths, Moors, French and others (you could add Britain too, she still "occupies" a small strip of land - yes, the "rock"). France has also been conquered a lot.
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Posted: 07-Feb-2005 at 17:11 |
Israel.
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Faran
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Posted: 07-Feb-2005 at 18:13 |
I will vote for Iraq as well, with Palestine in second place.
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Posted: 07-Feb-2005 at 20:42 |
Armenia was conquered by: Assyrians, Medes, Persians, Macedonians, Romans, Byzantines, Seljuks, other Turkic khanates, Mongols, Egyptians, Ottomans, Russians, and some others that I might have forgotten to mention. Present day Armenia has only kept one tenth of its historical size.
But it was pretty strong during later Antiquity, and was able to forge an empire of its own. And Armenians were still relatively a majority in their lands until early 20th century.
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Posted: 07-Feb-2005 at 21:24 |
France has also been conquered a lot. |
France isn't gaul dude. France started with the Franks invasion, anything before that isn't France but Gaul. Since the existence of the France, France has never been conquered, invaded, defeated and occupied yes but conquered never. It took 100 years to defeat the Angevin or Platagenet empire (actually it wasn't the English vs France during the 100 years wars but more Frankish France vs anglo-french burgundian alliance). We were occupied during WW2 but again not conquered since it took 5 years for the german to be defeated. To be conquered mean to be ruled by foreigners in your totality this has yet to happen in France. England has been conquered France has never been.
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Posted: 07-Feb-2005 at 23:07 |
I suppose one can put it that way.
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