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Topic: The modern Greek military Posted: 24-Mar-2007 at 14:23 |
One correction, Spilios Spiliotopoulos is no longer a Defence Minister, he was replaced.
Concerning this...
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...they are Hellen-Cypriot Special Forces.
Edited by Hellios - 24-Mar-2007 at 16:18
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Posted: 25-Mar-2007 at 04:12 |
^ um thats a pac-2
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Posted: 25-Mar-2007 at 04:24 |
May I ask what the Pac-2 is and does?
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Posted: 25-Mar-2007 at 07:25 |
Originally posted by Knights
May I ask what the Pac-2 is and does? |
Greece has PAC-2 and PAC-3 air defence systems.
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Posted: 25-Mar-2007 at 07:48 |
Hey Hellios, are those special forces currently being deployed anywhere? They look like they can take on just about anyone...
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Posted: 25-Mar-2007 at 08:19 |
Originally posted by Knights
May I ask what the Pac-2 is and does?
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back on page six. i posted on this system Hey Hellios im not to sure Greece has the Pac-3, (re my post) the equipment they ordered/deployed doesn't match that designation nor does the photos they publish.
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Posted: 25-Mar-2007 at 17:05 |
It's Pac-2 (including the new ones). I read it in a magazine. I don't recall correctly what it was, but there was an issue about this (the Pac-2/Pac-3).
Adawolf, I doubt these special forces are being deployed anywhere, or have seen any actual combat since 1974 (the turkish invasion on the island). They may look impressive, but so do pretty much all soldiers in such propagandistic photos.
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Posted: 25-Mar-2007 at 18:44 |
Thanks for the info about which PAC Hellas uses. I was confused because some sources (like the one I posted) say PAC-III.
xristar, those are photos of exercises, I can show you propaganda, but won't.
Edited by Hellios - 25-Mar-2007 at 20:04
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Posted: 25-Mar-2007 at 20:36 |
If i was the photographer , there should be wasted 3-4 missiles at least to capture the moment
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This is Russian right?
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Posted: 10-May-2007 at 06:40 |
yes it is russian and a dam good missile (very expensive). here is my post on it early on this thread (which needs a clean)
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Posted: 10-May-2007 at 06:52 |
not as exciting as a missile or a tank. Greece just bought two reconnaissance pods for its F 16 blk52+ im sure they will by more as the retire the old recco phantoms. The news
CHARLOTTE, N.C., May 8 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- The Hellenic Air Force
(HAF) has selected Goodrich Corporation's (NYSE: GR) DB-110 airborne
reconnaissance system for use on F-16 fighters. Greece is acquiring 30
Lockheed Martin F-16 Block 52+, advanced multi-role fighters under the Peace
Xenia IV Foreign Military Sale (FMS) program. In the initial FMS contract,
Goodrich will provide two F-16 reconnaissance pods, a ground exploitation
system and aircraft integration.
According to Tom Bergeron, General Manager of Goodrich's Surveillance and
Reconnaissance Systems team, "We're honored to be selected by the Hellenic Air
Force. The Goodrich DB-110, with its three fields of view and real-time data
link, is the most advanced EO/IR reconnaissance pod available for the F-16.
Our successful flight testing on the Poland F-16 aircraft assures the Hellenic
Air Force that they will receive a high-performance and low-risk, proven
solution. These systems will represent the highest reconnaissance capabilities
within NATO providing full interoperability among NATO nation operators." | source
The Pod
Operation
- Day/night dual-band operation (visible and IR)
- Fully autonomous operation
- All-reflective 11-inch aperture telescope
- Focal lengths adjustable to fit application
- Nominal 110 inches visible
- Nominal 55 inches IR
- 180 field of regard across line of flight
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Features
- 20 field of regard along line of flight
- Panoramic scanning (4 to 28)
- Variable overlap, 10 to 100%
- Two-axis line-of-sight stabilization
- Altitude operating range of 10,000 to 80,000 ft.
- Ground speed range of 0.1 to 1.6 Mach
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The Goodrich's DB-110 reconnaissance pod is a
digital, real-time, tactical reconnaissance system designed to
capture images in day or night, using electro-optical sensor
technology.
The DB-110 is a long-range oblique sensor to provide long-range,
medium range and short-range imaging systems to support standoff
and penetrating missions. It can be operated autonomously, by the
pod's reconnaissance management system. Imagery is viewed on the
F-16's cockpit video display, enabling the pilot to verify targets
and conduct tasks such as battle damage assessment. This system
allows the pilot increased flexibility over current fielded
systems.
The DB-110/RAPTOR (Reconnaissance Airborne Pod for Tornado)
delivers high definition imagery in the visible and infrared bands
at extremely long ranges. Its offers broad area coverage, spot and
stereo coverage. The systems use an 11" aperture telescope with
adjustable focal length of 110" in the visible range and 55" in
the IR range. The EO assembly is mounted on a two-axis stabilized
maintaining 180 field of regard across, and 20 along the line
of flight. The system has two-axis line of sight stabilization,
and is compensated for ground speed range of 0.1 to 1.6 Mach, at
altitude above 10,000 feet. It provides variable overlap
capability, from 10 to 100% and panoramic scanning (4 to 28). | source
Edited by Leonidas - 10-May-2007 at 06:54
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Posted: 10-May-2007 at 13:48 |
You know, Greece has like just stopped buying for the last 1,5-2 years.
And we really need some equipment.
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Posted: 10-May-2007 at 14:00 |
Originally posted by xristar
You know, Greece has like just stopped buying for the last 1,5-2 years.
And we really need some equipment. |
First we must train to the equipment that we already have. Our Army General Staff, thinks that its precious new ''toys'' shouldn't be used by our soldiers.
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Posted: 19-May-2007 at 23:53 |
Originally posted by xristar
You know, Greece has like just stopped buying for the last 1,5-2 years.
And we really need some equipment. |
They splurged not that long ago, and are looking for next generation equipment for the next round; Eurofighters and (I read) Horizon class frigates, its will be a massive spend on top of what they already bought.
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Posted: 20-May-2007 at 01:25 |
112 Combat Wing 358 Mira (Squadron) "Phaethon" Air Force Base of Elefsis. (This post is a WIP)SA 332C1 Super Puma and the AS 532 Cougar
The HAF has 4 Super Puma's + two more for Medevac and 6(4?) Cougars in CSAR/SAR roles. 4 more SA 332C1's are with the Greek merchant marine. "The 5 denotes military, A is armed, C is armed-antitank, and U
is utility. The second letter represents the level of upgrading. AS 332 Super Puma: Differs from the SA 330 Puma through an improved
rotor system, upgraded engines, stretched fuselage, and a modified nose
shape. AS 532 Cougar Mk I SC is the naval version of the Cougar. The Cougar name was adopted for all military variants, and in 1990, all
Super Puma designations were changed from AS 332 to AS 532 to
distinguish between civil and military variants. The Cougar was
designed to provide high performance, ease of deployment, low operating
cost, comfort, plus high mission readiness. For military use and
adapting to modern battlefield conditions, it features survivability,
suitability for tactical flight thanks to exceptional manoeuvrability,
low observability, low vulnerability to projectiles, crashworthiness." 1Dimensions |
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main rotor diameter | 16.2 m |
tail rotor diameter | 3.15 m |
overall width | 3.86 m |
overall length, rotors turning | 19.5 m |
overall height, tail rotor turning | 4.97 m |
width of wheel track | 3.0 m |
Cabin, maximum length x width x height | 6.15 x 1.8 x 1.45 m |
Performance |
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never exceed speed | 327 km/hour |
cruise speed | 273 km/hour |
cruise speed, maximum range | 242 km/hour |
Range, standard fuel | 796 km |
Range, maximum fuel | 1,176 km |
Endurance | 4 hours 20 minutes | 2http://membres.lycos.fr/wings2/3vues/3vues.html Inside the Cougar's cockpit ^ from www.militaryfactory.comHAF SAR-CSAR (Combat Search and Rescue) pictures I think this is the AS 532 Cougarhttp://www.haf.gr/media/AS332_01.jpg SA 332C1 4better pictures found here > http://www.haf.gr/media/airshow/haf/static/airshow_0419.jpg AS 532 Cougar4better pictures found here > http://www.haf.gr/en/media/default.asp 1 globalsecurity.org 2 airforce-technology 3 www.eurocopter.com Technical data PDF 4 www.acig.org
Edited by Leonidas - 20-May-2007 at 01:51
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Posted: 25-Oct-2007 at 20:45 |
Edited by kiato - 28-Oct-2007 at 23:47
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Posted: 26-Oct-2007 at 11:23 |
welcome kiato, your additions are welcome
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