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    Posted: 02-Oct-2006 at 12:48
who does not know the cruel king chengiz khan but many believe that he was a muslim,but he was not.the mongols were tribal warriors and descended from the steeps of central asia and they were fierce warriors,initially they were opponents to islam and they plundered the then muslim capital of baghadad and dragged the caliph of islam outside and killed him under the hoofs of their horses when they captured bagahad but within 100 years after this event they met their first defeat at the hands of the mamluks of egypt who were muslims and slowly they bowed to the superiority of islam and became muslims.
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  Quote rider Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Oct-2006 at 14:07
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  Quote Paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Oct-2006 at 15:43
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  Quote Vivek Sharma Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Oct-2006 at 01:18
What is he trying to say ? This was common with all the mongols, they took the religions of the lands they conquered. So every religio in the world was superior to them because some of the mongols became apart of those religions ? I get a smell of propoganda in this topic !!!
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  Quote xi_tujue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Oct-2006 at 01:55
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who does not know the cruel king chengiz khan but many believe that he was a muslim,but he was not.the mongols were tribal warriors and descended from the steeps of central asia and they were fierce warriors,initially they were opponents to islam and they plundered the then muslim capital of baghadad and dragged the caliph of islam outside and killed him under the hoofs of their horses when they captured bagahad but within 100 years after this event they met their first defeat at the hands of the mamluks of egypt who were muslims and slowly they bowed to the superiority of islam and became muslims.
 
the mamelukes them selfs were from the steppes allso and btw they didn't take religion as serious as people do now. in CA even to day they don't
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  Quote Vivek Sharma Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Oct-2006 at 05:56
So did the Mongols, Religion for them was something to be experimented with after you had achieved conquest, to integrate with the conquered people better, start following the conquered religion.
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  Quote Tipu Sultan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Oct-2006 at 13:38
well what humbled the mongols was their defeat at the hands of muslims. they hated the iranians and some mongol king said to an iranain that you people are worse than dogs to which he replied that we would have been worse than dogs if we had not been muslims.
this statement touched him a lot.


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  Quote xi_tujue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-Oct-2006 at 00:43

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  Quote Scytho-Sarmatian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-Oct-2006 at 08:17
The majority of today's Mongols are Buddhists.  Muslim Mongols are now only a very small minority.Ying Yang
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  Quote Tipu Sultan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-Oct-2006 at 11:59
largely in correct sarmatian.
there is a difference between chinese and mongols.monglos are mainly muslims-uzbeks,tajiks,turmenis,kazaks,etc
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  Quote erkut Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-Oct-2006 at 12:34
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largely in correct sarmatian.
there is a difference between chinese and mongols.monglos are mainly muslims-uzbeks,tajiks,turmenis,kazaks,etc
 
Kazaks, Turkmans, Uzbeks are Turkic. Tajiks are İranic/Persian/Farsi or whatever you call. 
Mongols are different from them(ethnicaly and religiously).  
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  Quote Tipu Sultan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-Oct-2006 at 12:43
well what do you call the indonesians,malaysians,maldives,brunei which are all predominantly muslim countries and uzbeks are turks?i though they were monglos they are cheeki eyed.
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^^^ lol  WOW.
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  Quote ok ge Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-Oct-2006 at 22:18
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i though they were monglos they are cheeki eyed.
Dear Tipu, not every cheeki eyed person is a mongol and not every blonde guy is a Swedish. Smile
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  Quote erkut Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-Oct-2006 at 22:51
And most of Turks has cheek eye, just like Mongols but that doesnt make them Mongol.
Or if every cheek eyed  person is Mongol, Japan shold be a part of Mongolia :)
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  Quote Tipu Sultan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-Oct-2006 at 09:55
no turks are not cheeki eyed.the mongols are cheeki eyed.i have seen turks they have big broad eyes while ukbeks,kazaks have cheeki eyed like the malaysians,indonesians,etc
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  Quote Bulldog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-Oct-2006 at 10:34
You do realise that they are "Turks" don't you? are Malaysians Mongols? no, are Turks Mongols? no. Most Turks are in Central Asia if you didn't already know.

And if your referring to Turks of Turkey, they don't have as Mongoloid features as the others but compared to their neighbours like Greeks, Persians etc they have more "oriental" eye's and features.

    
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  Quote malizai_ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-Oct-2006 at 11:42
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They are telling the truth, my sincere advcise would be to reappraise your knowledge of the turkic phenotype and tukic groups. Turks/tatar/mongols are part of a larger body of people reffered to as the altaic group. Turkish is more a cultural identitiy.
 


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  Quote Tipu Sultan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-Oct-2006 at 11:44
ok if you guys say so.chinese muslims look like monglos to me.i think i am right here.
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  Quote Bulldog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-Oct-2006 at 13:01
Chinease Muslims? Uygur Turks, Tajik Iranics, Hui group who are made up of various ethnicities including Mongols, Machu, Turks, Iranics, Han Chinease?
 
There are millions of muslims in China among them there are many ethnicities, the largest being Uygur Turks.
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