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Bulldog 
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Joined: 17-May-2006 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2800 |
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 Topic: THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGEPosted: 23-Jul-2006 at 14:18 |
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I'm not claiming the Biblical account is what "actually" happened, neither is the "Darwin" theory "actually" what happened.
Other Holy books give different accounts anyway, it would be good to read them aswell.
And if you think humans are "thinking, changing, advancing", think again.
100 years ago we had no Internet, today we do, that was caused by "thinking, changing and advancing" wouldn't you agree
 Why is it arrogance to think humans are unique? to even think if we are or not unique to debate about this matter and to have contrasting viewpoints is unique.
Edited by Bulldog - 23-Jul-2006 at 14:20 |
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Aelfgifu
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Posted: 24-Jul-2006 at 04:48 |
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nope, we are just natures little freak accident...
Anyway, the present day version of evolutio theory does not claim we decend from the apes, it claims that we and the apes have a common ancestor. Its not the same. We also know that various other human species, like neandertal, at one time coinhabited the world with homo sapiens. We are just the only ones to survive, the rest went the way of the dodo.
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Bulldog
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Posted: 24-Jul-2006 at 07:18 |
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Today science has reached the point of confirming that the universe came into being from nothing. From nothing, the universe and time were created.
There were no other types of humans like us, they were other beings but they didn't share alot in common with us well our most important features, this powerfull brain which even today we cannot fully harness to its optimum power.
Our brains are the same size since the time of our first direct ancestors. They had civillizations which were more advanced then certain countries and tribes today.
Seen as though the first humans had our brains maybe they also had a language, one language to communicate with each other. Science today cannot tell us but maybe in the future it could.
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Aarya
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Posted: 25-Jul-2006 at 10:09 |
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This is what the Indian
Vedas, and indian culture resonated from the time of its existence...
But unfortuanelty religious prejudices has come in between the analysis f Indian literature categorising them as mere mythologies, even if they seem to reflect the most rationale thought... Anyway more is goig to coem out |
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bg_turk
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Posted: 25-Jul-2006 at 10:27 |
I must say I agree with Aelfgifu. Evolution is mostly a settled matter within the scientifici community. Those that dispute it usually have their creationist agendas and argue about humans descending from a very exclusive and small group (as if from Adam and Eva) and that there was an "intelligent design" somewhere along the process of natural selection (as if it was God that created us). The intelligent design doctrine stands no chance to pass any serious scienitific scrutinity - it is merely pseudoscience. Human beings do suffer from a superiority complex and they believe that their species is uber the others because it is intellgent and has free will. But how do we define intelligence and free will? And how do we know animals do not have free will? Historically we have comitted many similar mistakes in the sweet belief of our superiority and importance. A few hundred years ago we even thought that we were in the center of the universe and that all heaven watched us. Copernicus, Gallileo and other astronomers have shown us that we are in fact an insignificant spec of dust somewhere in the vast expanse of the universe. Darwin and biology teach us that we are just another member of the animal world, a member which by the way has multiplied way too fast over the past millenia, and if no steps are taken our species will probably die away under nature's self-regulation mechanism that have lead to the demise of so many other over-multiplying species. |
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Bulldog
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Posted: 25-Jul-2006 at 11:15 |
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Bg_Turk
Evolution is mostly a settled matter within the scientifici community.
Science is not a faith or a constant, in the post-modernist age of thinking everything must be exammined, questioned and approached from every angle, nothing stays the same in Science, new theories and discoveries are always made.
The problem with some Darwinists is that they treat it as the total truth and believe in it almost blindly as if it was a religion.
Those that dispute it usually have their creationist agendas and argue about humans descending from a very exclusive and small group (as if from Adam and Eva) and that there was an "intelligent design" somewhere along the process of natural selection (as if it was God that created us).
There is a difference between the "creatianist" theory put forward by people saying the world was created in 6 human days and the now accepted reality by most Physics specialists-proffessors... who have proven that there was a "creation", meaning there was a time when there was Nothing and no time meaning these concepts were created.
Also the latest scientific research does point to humans descending from a small group distinct to other species before us. There was a season of programs about this not too long ago on the BBC.
Human beings do suffer from a superiority complex and they believe that their species is uber the others because it is intellgent and has free will.
What is a superiority complex, how is it that we can think and create concepts and understandings to debate about "superiority complexes", if we were all the same we'd have these conversations with our cats and birds in the trees, unfortunately we cannot so this section of the argument is pointless.
Darwin and biology teach us that...
Welcome to the divinivication of Darwin...
and if no steps are taken our species will probably die away
Well luckily we have somthing called "intellegence" and have the power to do somthing about it, where-as previous life-forms didn't.
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Aelfgifu
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Posted: 25-Jul-2006 at 13:11 |
This is a very precise example of the superiority complex that makes us blind to the rest of the world. You just proved the point Bulldog. Us not being unique has nothing to do with conversing with other species. Cats do not talk to birds and vice versa, so your argument is besides the point.
And for your info, I do have conversations with my cat.  Edited by Aelfgifu - 25-Jul-2006 at 13:11 |
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Flipper
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Joined: 23-Apr-2006 Location: Flipper HQ Online Status: Offline Posts: 1813 |
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Posted: 26-Jul-2006 at 10:27 |
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Basically there is one "word" that is common in all languages of the world. This word is the sound of silence "sssss" (sh). The reason why everyone use this to declare "silence" is because that is the sound a baby hears (when inside its mother) when the mother calms down from a tense situation.
Isn't it amazing if you think about it? It's been 3 years before I read it so i don't remember which linguist wrote that. I'll check it out though. Edited by Flipper - 26-Jul-2006 at 10:29 |
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medenaywe
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Master of Meanings Joined: 06-Nov-2010 Location: / Online Status: Offline Posts: 17084 |
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Posted: 28-Dec-2011 at 03:37 |
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The reason is that once we had spoken the same!Sh/Shu have their meaning.Once voices were a words and words sentences.Languages we use today were modified in direction "explain same event/image/figure
with different words and destroy it's former phonetic structure".Sh=stone.Shu=wood.You choose material that you will use to make them silent of course!  Who did change language,Aliens?Edited by medenaywe - 28-Dec-2011 at 04:22 |
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