Ismaili assassins

Also, Iraq, Syria and northern Middle East were not traditionally Arab homelands. 

Hello to you all.

Zagros my friend I am fairly disappointed from your reply earlier. How can you assume that I was not talking about Babak (Babik as he was known to Arabs) Khorramdin (AL-Khorrami) and that I was suffering a case of mistaken identity. Second, you even didn�t know the guy that I was presumed to have meant in my post. Abu Bakr died of natural causes 2 years after the death of the prophet (13 A.H). The guy you were referring to is Abu Lo�loah Fayrooz, a Persian windmill maker and sword smith who was a slave of Al-Mugherah ibn Shu�bah who tired to assassinate Omar the second caliph in 23 A.H mortally wounding him with a double headed dagger with a handle not a hilt, the caliph died 3 days later. The guy, who was either Nestorian or most likely Zoroastrian ironically became a hero to the shia after some 300 year from that instance despite the fact that shia don�t even recognize Zoroastrians as dhimmie and in shia jurisprudence should either convert of leave the lands of islam and thus we see that the Safavids forcibly kicked them out of Iran or converted them despite them being a considerable minority up to the 16^th century. Compare that to Christians who were at least 30% of the population in sunni countries in the middle east by 1860. It was after the unfortunate events in Lebanon in that year when Christians chose exudes. If all of the descendents of those immigrants returned today they will make up to 30% of the population compared to the current 10%. Finlly, Babik did not revolt as a result of the murder of Abu Muslim (his father was a childe then) those who revolted were known as the Javandians (الجاونديون) and they were a political party that wanted to restore Persian rule. Babik later would join and eventually lead them and try to preach his religion of Mazdakism against the alliance of the Zoroastrian priests and Abbasid government.

Anyway this thread is about assassins and we took a long detour , when time comes I will put up inshallah a thread about Babik and early resistance to Arabs rule in Persia and other provinces so I hope we stick to our subject and be patient because the Arabs (actually it is a famous rule in Islamic law) say: he who hastily wants to be rewarded before time comes will be punished by preventing his from obtaining that reward he deserves (It works better in Arabic ).

Thank you

Al-Jassas ibn Murrah    

Hello Zagros

I am very sorry and do apologize for bringing religion into the discussion a thing that I should have never did and I know better than that and if I could take what has been written back I would do it .