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malizai_ 
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 Topic: Israel army launches Gaza assaultPosted: 30-Jun-2006 at 16:29 |
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The zionist 'colony' is the realization of the European dream of ridding it self of the Jews. The sooner this is accepted the better. THIS IS WHY WESTERN NATIONS WANT THE ACCEPTANCE OF ISRAELI STATE AT ALL COST AND WOULD BEND OVER BACKWARDS TO KEEP THE STATUS QUO, BECAUSE THE FAILURE OF THE ZIONISTS IS THEIR OWN FAILURE.
The Zionists never thought they were going to be as lucky as they got, reaching their goal so quickly. Initialy they had sought collective temporal refuge in which to amass the jewish diaspora, while continuing with their efforts towards the ultimate goal of creating a state in Palestine.
Towards this initial effort, lands were sought far and away, some of the proposed destinations were Uganda('the Uganda proposal'), Canada, Australia, Current day Iraq, Libya, Angola, Texas. this was done with the blessings of the respective overlords of the respective regions.
There was the "Madagascar Plan" to permanently settle all european jews to island of Madagascar, although the idea was seized upon by Himmler, it is said that the idea was concieved by French/Poles/British. The speculation ended with the Balfour Agreement. "Culpability" is an understatement.
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Dampier
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Posted: 30-Jun-2006 at 18:46 |
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Not entirely....if you remember Palestine was always a tricky area and to be fair all the Jews there were a pain in the ass. Its not actually anti semitism.
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pikeshot1600
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Posted: 30-Jun-2006 at 20:15 |
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If it is not anti-Semitism, what is it?
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azimuth
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Posted: 30-Jun-2006 at 20:19 |
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anti-Zionist
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pikeshot1600
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Posted: 30-Jun-2006 at 20:48 |
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A smoke screen. Anti-Zionist = anti-Jew.
 Those who hate Jews are anti-Semites just like Nazis or Imperial Russian pogromiki.
A resentment of a culture that has failed against a culture that has succeeded.
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azimuth
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Posted: 30-Jun-2006 at 21:34 |
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how anti-zionist = anti-jew ?
there are jews who are against zionist ideas. so are they jews who are anti jews?
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mamikon
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Posted: 30-Jun-2006 at 21:48 |
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Halevi, who posted here for a while, is an example of a Jew who dislikes
the zionist ideals. In fact he said so himself in one of his posts.
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docyabut
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Posted: 30-Jun-2006 at 22:29 |
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So its really all about religion, not the fact that the people all came from the same stock.
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malizai_
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Posted: 01-Jul-2006 at 09:22 |
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Thoughtless comments. You obviously have got no idea what you are talking about. You dont even know who semites are and who aint.'Pro-zionism or zionists' allways try to equate "Anti-Zionist = anti-Jew" which is the real "smoke screen". Fact of the matter is that jews have been around for thousands of years and zionist are a recent invention, therefore jews/judaism does not equate to zionism. Moses was not a zionist but a Jew. King Soloman was not a zionist but a Jew. Jesus, Moses, Mohammed, Abraham were all semites. "Those who hate Jews are anti-Semites just like Nazis or Imperial Russian pogromiki."
Those who hate jews are jew-haters, not anti-semites. the semites are more than just jews, infact most semites are non-jews. It could be argued that anti-semitism is a defining feature of zionists.
Cultures evolve and co-exist, they dont fail or succeed.
Basic facts:
Not all Jews are zionists. Not all zionists are Jews. There are christian zionists too. ( although their agenda is different)
"What's the number one item on the agenda of the Christian Right? Abortion? School Prayer? No and No. Believe it or not, what's most important to a lot of conservative Christians is the Jewish State. Israel: Its size, its strength, and its survival. Why? " http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/10/03/60minutes/main524268.shtml http://www.theocracywatch.org/christian_zionism.htm "As a Christian Zionist, I believe that Israel's withdrawal from Gaza--and U.S. support for it--defies God's will." "The members of the Christian Coalition of America are some of the most passionate defenders of Israel in the United States. There's just one catch: they want to convert all Jews to Christianity. Matthew Engel reports on an unholy alliance" http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,820528,00.html Most Jews in palestine are not semites. Jews were in Palestine before the colonization by the zionists.
6000 jews were present in 1525 in the ottoman state more came in from the end of the spanish claiphates including the donmeh escaping purges in Iberia. Here is a list of immigrations since late 1800: I personally dont need a smoke screen, i am openly anti-zionist. Edited by malizai_ - 01-Jul-2006 at 09:23 |
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malizai_
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Posted: 04-Jul-2006 at 06:42 |
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"Hamas, which advocates Israel's destruction, does not want to lose face by freeing Shalit without getting something in return. Israel says it does not want to set a precedent that could lead to more abductions. "
Looks like it is developed into a battle of wills. Hamas had asked the millitant to release him, previously. It might not happen now. Edited by malizai_ - 04-Jul-2006 at 06:43 |
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malizai_
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Posted: 07-Jul-2006 at 13:06 |
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Here are some selective passages from an analysis of the issue by Jonathon cook. "Under questioning from presenter Jon Snow of Channel Four news on the reasons behind Israel's bombing of Gaza's only power station -- thereby cutting off electricity to more than half of the Strip's 1.3 million inhabitants for many months ahead, as well as threatening the water supply -- Zvi Ravner denied this action amounted to collective punishment of the civilian population.
Rather, he claimed, the electricity station had to be disabled to prevent the soldier's captors from having the light needed to smuggle him out of Gaza at night. It was left to a bemused Jon Snow to point out that smugglers usually prefer to do their work in the dark and that Israel's actions were more likely to assist his captors than disadvantage them."
"The Alice Through the Looking Glass quality of Israeli disinformation over the combined siege and invasion of Gaza -- and its widespread and credulous repetition by the Western media -- is successfully distracting attention from Israel's real goals in this one-sided war of attrition."
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As Israel keeps all eyes directed towards the suffering in Gaza, it is starting to make significant moves in the West Bank and Jerusalem. It is preparing for the much-delayed evacuation of a handful of illegal West Bank hilltop settlements -- known in Israel as "outposts" -- demanded as the first stage of the implementation of the almost-forgotten US-sponsored peace process called the Road Map. "These outposts are tiny, often just a few caravans. It will be much to Israel's advantage if the world fails to examine too closely the miserly act of evacuating these places, which doubtless will later be presented both as Israel having made a huge sacrifice for peace and as having satisfied its side of the Road Map's conditions." "In yet another dose of Alice in Wonderland, Israel's policy of making hostages of these MPs was referred to as "arrests" by the Western media. Few bothered to report that the MPs are being deprived of even their most basic rights, such as meeting with their lawyers.
As the four Jerusalem MPs' lawyers have argued, it is a nonsense that Israel allowed these Hamas politicians to stand in the recent elections and now, after their victory, it calls their membership of the party "support for terrorism". It is also a disturbing sign of how easily Israel will be able to begin ethnically cleansing East Jerusalem of its Palestinian inhabitants using the flimsiest of excuses." read the whole article here-->
Another great article on the media spin.
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