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Topic: Queen Rania of Jordan Posted: 10-May-2007 at 14:47 |
Originally posted by nomadII
I've always considered her to be well-spoken and she's always very modestly dressed |
did you notice what she was wearing on the opening photo of this thread!!!!But then thats probably modest in your opinion. |
Yes, I find her to be appropriately attired for one in her position of "Queen".
Ooooh, you mean that her face, neck and arms are visible to the human eye! Well, then let's stone her to death for showing so much! But then thats probably not severe enough punishment in your opinion.
I don't know what you consider "modestly dressed" (well, unfortunately, maybe I do), but I'm sure most would agree that she looks very appropriate in the photos depicted on this thread, and very well-deserving of the title "Queen".
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Posted: 10-May-2007 at 12:25 |
Originally posted by nomadII
I've always considered her to be well-spoken and she's always very modestly dressed |
did you notice what she was wearing on the opening photo of this thread!!!!But then thats probably modest in your opinion. And im not telling her what to wear, thats up to her, but as a muslim queen as its so elegantly put, she could do more for the women who wish to wear the headscarf and are constantly attacked for it and considered brain dead or lesser human. |
She has no responsibility for those women, she has a responsibility to wear what she thinks is right, and to show that she can be modest in this way as well. At the end of the day she is just a human being, not someone bearing the faith of humanity on her shoulders. Why should she be scrutinized for wearing what she thinks is right?
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Posted: 10-May-2007 at 06:32 |
I've always considered her to be well-spoken and she's always very modestly dressed |
did you notice what she was wearing on the opening photo of this thread!!!!But then thats probably modest in your opinion. And im not telling her what to wear, thats up to her, but as a muslim queen as its so elegantly put, she could do more for the women who wish to wear the headscarf and are constantly attacked for it and considered brain dead or lesser human.
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Posted: 09-May-2007 at 20:04 |
Originally posted by nomadII
Have any of you actually been to Jordan? I think queen rania is more loved out of jordan than in..... and i too think she only married a short fat puppet king, whom most of the country of jordan thinks has down syndrome, and who couldnt even speak arabic when accending the throne. Yes she is pretty, but as a muslim woman she should cover herself a bit more, but that is probably why so many westerners love her because she is a figure of muslim womens freedom to throw the hated veil.
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Why don't we just put a blanket over her and cut out some holes for eyes and mouth?
I think that you should refrain from telling others what to do, she should do exactly as she pleases, not as you feel she should.
Btw. Please do please do find me a sura, even ayat in the Qu'ran that actually specifically calls for women to wear any form of veil.
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Posted: 09-May-2007 at 16:59 |
Originally posted by nomadII
... but that is probably why so many westerners love her because she is a figure of muslim womens freedom to throw the hated veil.
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Nomad, I've never heard it referred to as the "hated veil". However, I certainly feel that it's her choice whether she wants to wear one or not. Quite frankly, I've seen her with a veil and without one and she still is a very beautiful woman either way. You obviously have a problem with women becoming more independent, but I hope you don't judge women so harshly simply because she does not wear a veil. I've always considered her to be well-spoken and she's always very modestly dressed. So, what bug bit you today?
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Posted: 09-May-2007 at 15:05 |
Have any of you actually been to Jordan? I think queen rania is more loved out of jordan than in..... and i too think she only married a short fat puppet king, whom most of the country of jordan thinks has down syndrome, and who couldnt even speak arabic when accending the throne. Yes she is pretty, but as a muslim woman she should cover herself a bit more, but that is probably why so many westerners love her because she is a figure of muslim womens freedom to throw the hated veil.
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Posted: 09-Apr-2007 at 06:04 |
Originally posted by sandy_baby
Originally posted by shayan
She looks good and she reminds me of Queen Farah Diba... So i like her :) |
omg...Are you out of your freaking mind?
How
dare you comparing Empress Farah with Queen Rania? How the hell do they
look alike? Stop fooling yourselves, just because Jordan and Iran are
in the so called political Middle East does not mean for one second
that Queen Rania and Empress Farah look the same. First of all, Rania
is an Arab, she speaks Arabic and shares a totally different culture
than Iranians, specially during the Pahlavi Dynasty.
Then look at their facial structures Totally different. |
She is pretty . Btw how does culture related to beauty ? Arab or
Iranian, beauty is beauty. Queen Raina reminds me of Former Shah's
daughter, Princess Leila Pahlavi.
http://www.voicesnotbodies.org/leila.jpg
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Posted: 09-Apr-2007 at 05:32 |
Originally posted by sandy_baby
Originally posted by shayan
She looks good and she reminds me of Queen Farah Diba... So i like her :) |
omg...Are you out of your freaking mind?
How dare you comparing Empress Farah with Queen Rania? How the hell do they look alike? Stop fooling yourselves, just because Jordan and Iran are in the so called political Middle East does not mean for one second that Queen Rania and Empress Farah look the same. First of all, Rania is an Arab, she speaks Arabic and shares a totally different culture than Iranians, specially during the Pahlavi Dynasty.
Then look at their facial structures Totally different. |
Rania could be from any part of Eurasia, including Iran - but I agree, she looks nothing like Farah Diba - she is much prettier.
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Posted: 09-Apr-2007 at 05:10 |
And here we go again. Another Persian supremicist.
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Posted: 09-Apr-2007 at 04:10 |
Originally posted by shayan
She looks good and she reminds me of Queen Farah Diba... So i like her :) |
omg... Are you out of your freaking mind?
How dare you comparing Empress Farah with Queen Rania? How the hell do they look alike? Stop fooling yourselves, just because Jordan and Iran are in the so called political Middle East does not mean for one second that Queen Rania and Empress Farah look the same. First of all, Rania is an Arab, she speaks Arabic and shares a totally different culture than Iranians, specially during the Pahlavi Dynasty.
Then look at their facial structures Totally different.
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Posted: 30-Sep-2006 at 06:23 |
She looks good and she reminds me of Queen Farah Diba... So i like her :)
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Posted: 09-Aug-2006 at 19:33 |
You're right morticia, I think Queen Noor was curtailed by her status as a Western woman living in a conservative Middle Eastern society, otherwise, I believe she would have been able to introduce many more reforms in regards to women's rights in the Arab world.
I still appreciate her efforts for the betterment of women's lives and education. I think if she had been an Anglo-American or a European woman instead of an Arab-American woman, married to King Hussein, then her efforts would have been criticized and hampered even more by the conservative establishment in Jordan and the Middle East.
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Posted: 09-Aug-2006 at 13:03 |
Yes, MB, I too wish she could have made more of an impact regarding women's issues in her husband's country. However, she has an impressive resume. She is an advisor to an organization called "Women Waging Peace" and a Patron of International Alert's Women and Peace-building campaign, focusing on women's role and contribution to conflict resolution and peace building. She's also actively involved in various programs on environmental issues (i.e. ban of landmines, archeological conservations and protectiion, etc) and in the areas of child development, health and humanitarian relief aid.
Her lack of bringing the women's issue to the forefront, IMO, was probably due to having been American-born and to avoid being accussed of pushing the Western culture to the Middle East. I think that maybe she took a step back in the women's issue to avoid unnecessary confrontations which would affect her husband's status. What do you think?
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Posted: 08-Aug-2006 at 17:02 |
I agree morticia, "Queen" Noor is elegant, beautiful, intelligent, and sophisticated, and a great role model for Arab women, but I do wish that she had done more to convince her late husband to introduce democratic reforms and women's rights in his country.
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Posted: 08-Aug-2006 at 14:57 |
Yes, Queen Noor is still beautiful and is still very classy.
Lisa Halaby when they announced their engagement
Queen Noor and King Hussein
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Posted: 07-Aug-2006 at 19:18 |
Queen Noor was born Lisa Najeeb Halaby, the daughter of an Arab -American of Lebanese Christian descent. She converted to Islam upon her marriage to King Hussein. I caught her interview on Larry King Live, and even in her 50s - she still looks stunning!
btw: I consider EASTERN to be more Asiatic, i.e. Chinese, Indian, Buddhist, Hindu philosophy. If we are going to classify Judaism and Christianity as WESTERN idealogies, then we would need to classify their stray sister, Islam, in the same fashion.
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Posted: 07-Aug-2006 at 16:23 |
MB - Did you know that Queen Noor was an American born in Washington D.C.?
btw, very interesting your statements about Islam being a Western idealogy!
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Posted: 03-Aug-2006 at 16:16 |
Originally posted by morticia
Originally posted by Master_Blaster
I hope that wasn't too confusing |
WHAT? |
I meant that Islam is actually a Western idealogy as in encompasses those Abrahamic traditions found in Judaism and Christianity also - both of which are classified as Western religions.
The reason that Islam is often misclassified as an Eastern religion is because so many of its adherents come from non-Western backgrounds, i.e. the Pakistanis, Afghans, Tajiks, Indonesians, etc.
My argument was that a Muslim whose background is Western, i.e. a Bosniak, Albanian, Chechen, etc. are Western, whereas those Muslims whose ancestory is clearly "Eastern", i.e. Afghans were Buddhist prior to conversion to Islam, Turks were shamanist and Buddhist prior to accepting Islam, can be correctly classified as being Eastern.
Anyways, I still think Queen Noor Al-Hussein is far more attractive and intelligent than Queen Rania-Al-Abdullah.
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Posted: 01-Aug-2006 at 16:48 |
Originally posted by Mila
Even in Bosnia, which is hardly as "Eastern" as Jordan, you can still find ads in newspapers like "WANTED: Attractive female secretary.", or "JOB OPPORTUNITY: Male manager position available." There's nothing wrong with using such a societal structure to your own advantage. |
If I ever move to Bosnia, I am going to hang a sign outside my door, "WANTED: VERY ATTRACTIVE BOSNIAK FEMALE FOR MARRIAGE. UNATTRACTIVE WOMEN NEED NOT APPLY."
On a more serious note, it's really odd how Islam is categorized as an "Eastern" idealogy when it originated in the Middle East - the birthplace of Judaism and Christianity (both labelled as "Western") and it shares many of the same "Western" principles that we in the West attribute to Judeo-Christian thought. I think that many of the societies in which Islam is dominant, i.e. Afghanistan, Kazakhstan, Iraq, etc. are "Eastern" but I don't think the religion itself is an Eastern philosophy. Muslims in the West are "western" and Muslims who come from Eastern backgrounds are "eastern" - I hope that wasn't too confusing.
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