Queen Rania of Jordan
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Topic: Queen Rania of Jordan
Posted By: Mila
Subject: Queen Rania of Jordan
Date Posted: 12-May-2006 at 10:39
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Posted By: Sir Jerry
Date Posted: 12-May-2006 at 10:43
| Queen Rania is very beautiful.Is that her pic in your Avatar Mila. |
Posted By: Kapikulu
Date Posted: 13-May-2006 at 06:31
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Queen Rania is commendable in many ways, both with the works she had done, the charities,her modernity etc...She had been a great representative outside for Jordan and seems like the most active "First Lady" in the world nowadays, having an important role in Jordan's international relations ------------- We gave up your happiness Your hope would be enough; we couldn't find neither; we made up sorrows for ourselves; we couldn't be consoled; A Strange Orhan Veli |
Posted By: Master_Blaster
Date Posted: 20-Jul-2006 at 17:11
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My problem with "Queen" Rania is that she's admired for nothing else in the West other than her beauty. My other issue with her is that she advocates for the freedom of the "Palestinian people" from Israel but herself serves as "queen" of an entire country where 70% of the citizens are of "Palestinian" descent?
There is no such thing as "Palestinian people" or "Jordanians" - both are ARABS. There are Arabs from Jordan and Arabs from what was Palestine. It's silly to suggest that "Queen" Rania is "Palestinian" - she's not. She is just an Arab.
Honestly, I don't know why the children of Bosnia-Herzegovina would admire her when it was the Saudis that sent money to the Bosnian Muslims, the Iranians and Turks who provided guns, and the Islamic World that provided 6,000 Mujahideen to fight the Serbian aggression.
All this woman, Rania, did was marry some short, fat, Western puppet, "King" Abdullah.
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Posted By: morticia
Date Posted: 21-Jul-2006 at 11:08
....who makes her happy and let's her be the gracious, poised, beautiful and intelligent woman and mother that she is! I see nothing wrong with that! She's a great example for the modern young woman of today.  ------------- "Morty Trust in God: She will provide." -- Emmeline Pankhurst |
Posted By: morticia
Date Posted: 28-Jul-2006 at 15:41
Queen Rania is very beautiful. She's so lucky to have found her "king" and live happily ever after.......just like a fairy tale! She's also very stylish and modern.
Queen Rania and her King 
Queen Rania ------------- "Morty Trust in God: She will provide." -- Emmeline Pankhurst |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 31-Jul-2006 at 13:17
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I tend to agree with Master Blaster, I suspect that if she were an ordinary looking woman:-
a) she would not even make the cover in the local newspaper
b) she would not be solicited by oragnisations, seeking her patronage but most daming of all c) The king would not even have married her.
But, I am sure the King chose her for her intellect.
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Posted By: Mila
Date Posted: 31-Jul-2006 at 18:12
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I think it's kind of a mute point. It's not even expected in most
Eastern cultures that her beauty would have nothing to do with her
marriage or her successful professional life. Even in Bosnia, which is
hardly as "Eastern" as Jordan, you can still find ads in newspapers
like "WANTED: Attractive female secretary.", or "JOB OPPORTUNITY: Male
manager position available." There's nothing wrong with using such a
societal structure to your own advantage. Queen Rania's looks played a role in getting her to the position she's in, but she just as easily could have been a self-obcessed trophy wife who spends all her time shopping and demanding commoners bow before her. Thus, everything she's accomplished - she's accomplished. And bravo to her. ------------- |
Posted By: Master_Blaster
Date Posted: 01-Aug-2006 at 16:39
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I personally always felt that Queen Noor of Jordan, the widow of the late King Hussein (present King Abdullah's father) set the precedent for Muslim women in the Arab world.
Plus, I think Queen Noor - despite her age - is far more attractive than the much younger Queen Rania, and I hardly think the latter would be engaged in so many social and humanitarian efforts if the former queen hadn't set an example.
I personally think King Abdullah is a shallow, unattractive puppet of the West. If his family really wanted what was best for the Arab and Islamic worlds, then he would step down as ruler of Jordan, and allow for democratic reform in that country. As his family is descended from the Prophet, it is only right that they (the Hashemites) give up all their political powers and once again take their place as the Sharifs of Mecca.
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Posted By: Master_Blaster
Date Posted: 01-Aug-2006 at 16:48
If I ever move to Bosnia, I am going to hang a sign outside my door, "WANTED: VERY ATTRACTIVE BOSNIAK FEMALE FOR MARRIAGE. UNATTRACTIVE WOMEN NEED NOT APPLY."
 On a more serious note, it's really odd how Islam is categorized as an "Eastern" idealogy when it originated in the Middle East - the birthplace of Judaism and Christianity (both labelled as "Western") and it shares many of the same "Western" principles that we in the West attribute to Judeo-Christian thought. I think that many of the societies in which Islam is dominant, i.e. Afghanistan, Kazakhstan, Iraq, etc. are "Eastern" but I don't think the religion itself is an Eastern philosophy. Muslims in the West are "western" and Muslims who come from Eastern backgrounds are "eastern" - I hope that wasn't too confusing.
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Posted By: morticia
Date Posted: 03-Aug-2006 at 14:35
WHAT?  ------------- "Morty Trust in God: She will provide." -- Emmeline Pankhurst |
Posted By: Master_Blaster
Date Posted: 03-Aug-2006 at 16:16
I meant that Islam is actually a Western idealogy as in encompasses those Abrahamic traditions found in Judaism and Christianity also - both of which are classified as Western religions.
The reason that Islam is often misclassified as an Eastern religion is because so many of its adherents come from non-Western backgrounds, i.e. the Pakistanis, Afghans, Tajiks, Indonesians, etc.
My argument was that a Muslim whose background is Western, i.e. a Bosniak, Albanian, Chechen, etc. are Western, whereas those Muslims whose ancestory is clearly "Eastern", i.e. Afghans were Buddhist prior to conversion to Islam, Turks were shamanist and Buddhist prior to accepting Islam, can be correctly classified as being Eastern.
Anyways, I still think Queen Noor Al-Hussein is far more attractive and intelligent than Queen Rania-Al-Abdullah.
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Posted By: morticia
Date Posted: 07-Aug-2006 at 16:23
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MB - Did you know that Queen Noor was an American born in Washington D.C.?
btw, very interesting your statements about Islam being a Western idealogy! ------------- "Morty Trust in God: She will provide." -- Emmeline Pankhurst |
Posted By: Master_Blaster
Date Posted: 07-Aug-2006 at 19:18
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Queen Noor was born Lisa Najeeb Halaby, the daughter of an Arab -American of Lebanese Christian descent. She converted to Islam upon her marriage to King Hussein. I caught her interview on Larry King Live, and even in her 50s - she still looks stunning! btw: I consider EASTERN to be more Asiatic, i.e. Chinese, Indian, Buddhist, Hindu philosophy. If we are going to classify Judaism and Christianity as WESTERN idealogies, then we would need to classify their stray sister, Islam, in the same fashion.
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Posted By: morticia
Date Posted: 08-Aug-2006 at 14:57
Yes, Queen Noor is still beautiful and is still very classy.
Lisa Halaby when they announced their engagement 
Queen Noor and King Hussein ------------- "Morty Trust in God: She will provide." -- Emmeline Pankhurst |
Posted By: Master_Blaster
Date Posted: 08-Aug-2006 at 17:02
| I agree morticia, "Queen" Noor is elegant, beautiful, intelligent, and sophisticated, and a great role model for Arab women, but I do wish that she had done more to convince her late husband to introduce democratic reforms and women's rights in his country. |
Posted By: morticia
Date Posted: 09-Aug-2006 at 13:03
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Yes, MB, I too wish she could have made more of an impact regarding women's issues in her husband's country. However, she has an impressive resume. She is an advisor to an organization called "Women Waging Peace" and a Patron of International Alert's Women and Peace-building campaign, focusing on women's role and contribution to conflict resolution and peace building. She's also actively involved in various programs on environmental issues (i.e. ban of landmines, archeological conservations and protectiion, etc) and in the areas of child development, health and humanitarian relief aid.
Her lack of bringing the women's issue to the forefront, IMO, was probably due to having been American-born and to avoid being accussed of pushing the Western culture to the Middle East. I think that maybe she took a step back in the women's issue to avoid unnecessary confrontations which would affect her husband's status. What do you think? ------------- "Morty Trust in God: She will provide." -- Emmeline Pankhurst |
Posted By: Master_Blaster
Date Posted: 09-Aug-2006 at 19:33
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You're right morticia, I think Queen Noor was curtailed by her status as a Western woman living in a conservative Middle Eastern society, otherwise, I believe she would have been able to introduce many more reforms in regards to women's rights in the Arab world. I still appreciate her efforts for the betterment of women's lives and education. I think if she had been an Anglo-American or a European woman instead of an Arab-American woman, married to King Hussein, then her efforts would have been criticized and hampered even more by the conservative establishment in Jordan and the Middle East.
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Posted By: shayan
Date Posted: 30-Sep-2006 at 06:23
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She looks good and she reminds me of Queen Farah Diba... So i like her :)
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 09-Apr-2007 at 04:10
How dare you comparing Empress Farah with Queen Rania? How the hell do they look alike? Stop fooling yourselves, just because Jordan and Iran are in the so called political ”Middle East” does not mean for one second that Queen Rania and Empress Farah look ”the same”. First of all, Rania is an Arab, she speaks Arabic and shares a totally different culture than Iranians, specially during the Pahlavi Dynasty. Then look at their facial structures… Totally different. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 09-Apr-2007 at 05:10
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And here we go again. Another Persian supremicist.
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Posted By: Zagros
Date Posted: 09-Apr-2007 at 05:32
Rania could be from any part of Eurasia, including Iran - but I agree, she looks nothing like Farah Diba - she is much prettier. ------------- |
Posted By: Suren
Date Posted: 09-Apr-2007 at 06:04
She is pretty . Btw how does culture related to beauty ? Arab or Iranian, beauty is beauty. Queen Raina reminds me of Former Shah's daughter, Princess Leila Pahlavi. http://www.voicesnotbodies.org/leila.jpg ------------- Anfører |
Posted By: nomadII
Date Posted: 09-May-2007 at 15:05
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Have any of you actually been to Jordan? I think queen rania is more loved out of jordan than in..... and i too think she only married a short fat puppet king, whom most of the country of jordan thinks has down syndrome, and who couldnt even speak arabic when accending the throne. Yes she is pretty, but as a muslim woman she should cover herself a bit more, but that is probably why so many westerners love her because she is a figure of muslim womens freedom to throw the hated veil.
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Posted By: morticia
Date Posted: 09-May-2007 at 16:59
Nomad, I've never heard it referred to as the "hated veil". However, I certainly feel that it's her choice whether she wants to wear one or not. Quite frankly, I've seen her with a veil and without one and she still is a very beautiful woman either way. You obviously have a problem with women becoming more independent, but I hope you don't judge women so harshly simply because she does not wear a veil. I've always considered her to be well-spoken and she's always very modestly dressed. So, what bug bit you today?  ------------- "Morty Trust in God: She will provide." -- Emmeline Pankhurst |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 09-May-2007 at 20:04
Why don't we just put a blanket over her and cut out some holes for eyes and mouth?
 I think that you should refrain from telling others what to do, she should do exactly as she pleases, not as you feel she should.
Btw. Please do please do find me a sura, even ayat in the Qu'ran that actually specifically calls for women to wear any form of veil.
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Posted By: nomadII
Date Posted: 10-May-2007 at 06:32
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did you notice what she was wearing on the opening photo of this thread!!!!But then thats probably modest in your opinion. And im not telling her what to wear, thats up to her, but as a muslim queen as its so elegantly put, she could do more for the women who wish to wear the headscarf and are constantly attacked for it and considered brain dead or lesser human.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 10-May-2007 at 12:25
She has no responsibility for those women, she has a responsibility to wear what she thinks is right, and to show that she can be modest in this way as well. At the end of the day she is just a human being, not someone bearing the faith of humanity on her shoulders. Why should she be scrutinized for wearing what she thinks is right? |
Posted By: morticia
Date Posted: 10-May-2007 at 14:47
Yes, I find her to be appropriately attired for one in her position of "Queen". Ooooh, you mean that her face, neck and arms are visible to the human eye! Well, then let's stone her to death for showing so much!  But then thats probably not severe enough punishment in your opinion.
I don't know what you consider "modestly dressed" (well, unfortunately, maybe I do), but I'm sure most would agree that she looks very appropriate in the photos depicted on this thread, and very well-deserving of the title "Queen". ------------- "Morty Trust in God: She will provide." -- Emmeline Pankhurst |