Europe oldest village

Archeology have scratched less than 0.000000000001% of Earth's surface till now so all our arguments are premature and obsolete in same time! 

Why the last 30,000 years. There was the Toba super volcano that erupted 70,000 years ago and killed almost every human on earth, they estimate only 10,000 survivors.

Let us define question backwards:What will happen with few survived units after large scale disaster on earth?Modern supply with living products they will loose,clothes,heating systems etc.etc.They need to start again from zero point.After few generations their ancestors will have Atlantis story like a past. Generations after them this will become myth of lost civilization,different than one they belong.
  Survival erase memories no matter whatever you were before.All that are parts of so called transitional countries have seen that with their own eyes:Professors with degree were driving taxi one shift more to earn for life in night shift.On daylight they were professors.But here everything that was their world is gone.Welcome to the world of basic instincts and technology improvisations!You know to build a gun but you can't cause it is not a time for that.

You are missing first universal speaking language in the world.Signs that are positions of fingers and arms,also characteristic lines of human body.We still  use them like "body talk".But once they were part of
official social communication.Two persons communicated parallel using there voices and arms.


Edited by medenaywe - 25-Jan-2011 at 13:29

Yes, at least one Internet site about the huts argued, later camps could have gotten mingled with the earliest ones, because of natural causes over time. 

However, I may have to eat my words, because evidently Homo Erectus did swim.   According to the aquatic theory, during an extremely long heat wave some ape like creatures took to the water, and these would be the ones that became humans.  Here is that theory:

http://survive2012.com/index.php/aquatic-ape.html

This could have given Homo Erectus all the experience and abilities I doubted he had. 

Also remember Cro-Magnon?  Checking out the subject, I came along an explanation of Cro-Magnon, in the same area.  The term Cro-Magnon has fallen out of favor, but for me it makes sense to speak of them as a tribe that once occupied area.  They are thought to come much later than Homo Erectus which appears to be the only known species old enough to have built the huts,  but I don't think at this point we have enough evident to be sure Homo Erectus built the huts.  

Edited by Athena - 25-Jan-2011 at 11:47

I questioned if the inhabitants were Homo Erectus, because of the discovery of other human species.  So unless there are bones that clearly identify the inhabitants, I don't think we should jump to the conclusion the site is Homo Erectus.  I checked a few sites and see no mention of the inhabitants being Homo Erectus.

Also I think there is a difference between communication and have a language.  My dog has learned to stay to the right, because I get very upset if he goes to the left.  But he has no idea why I get upset if he goes to the right or crosses the street to chase a squirre, so he doesn't pay attention to the rules, it he thinks I am not looking.   My 2 year old great grandson was even harder to train and at age 3 still doesn't get it.  Come to think of it, it is quite amazing language caught on, considering the difficulty in associating mean with a sound, beyond communicating pleasure or displeasure with another.

"Put the pole here, large end down", can only be communicated with pointing and pleasure or displeasure.  It can not become language, such as a modern day foreman would use, without an intellectual leap.  I don't think Homo Erectus made that leap, but Neanderthal did.  

Apes make nest and they work together as social beings,  and bonobo are even better at cooperation.  I would expect Homo Erectus to do was well, but I think building a hut is beyond the intellectual of Homo Erectus, because of the complexity of getting everything together, so the sticks don't fall.   That would be pushing the IQ limits. 

And then because there are different species of everything else, we might expect different species of humans. 

Originally posted by Athena Why is it thought this complex living is Homo Erectus?

There being no physiological reason that they couldn't speak, why not?  Communication between individuals does not need a complex vocabulary.  Has anyone ever had an experience with "Twin Speak"?  My wife's nieces wre Ident. twins, by the time they were 2 they had their own language which they used to communicate with each other.  Their mother was able to pick up some of it and she used it to communicate with them until they were about 3-4.  This isn't uncommon.  

I don't know. Such a structure would probably have been built by multiple individuals. Certainly some advanced form of communication had to have been used. Vocal communication makes sense, even if actual speech was 'theoretically' impossible (improbable). But millions of people today can express themselves admirably using sign language.

Primates too for that matter...

Edited by Goban

good humour