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    Posted: 16-Sep-2004 at 22:08
This section of the forum doesn't need political garbage like these.
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"Don't swear. By the way he speaks English perfectly - he is only trying to manipulate my senteces. He only makes "mistakes" when he will profit by twisting up my words."

 

I'm not manipualting anything. You just can't speak and stupid enough to not remember what you say.

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"Note my sentence again. By "it" I was describing Mongolia. Note that the noun closest to "it" is  Mongolia. Do you need a grammer lesson? And were you not just saying that China made Mongolia under its control more prosperous???"

 

I don't need any grammer lesson, its you that need to learn how to read, you clearly mentioned "outer mongolia" are you having memory problems coupled with stupidity and poor reading?

 

"I was talking about Hong Kong becoming more prosperous by the way not Brits.

Well, Hong Kong was taken over during 19th century so Brits have a good claim. Hong Kong is British according to your logic. "

 

No, because the British agreed to return it after 99 years, it was a lease not a gain. learn some history before you act stupid again.

 

"A lot of Hong Kongers detest Chinese takeover, that is why so many of them immigrated. "

 

 

And alot don't while the far majority didn't migrate.

 

"Did they have a system to vote governors? Yes... Do they now have a system to vote for their representatives? I don't think so. "

 

Oh well, they are lucky that they could vote at all.

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Don't swear. By the way he speaks English perfectly - he is only trying to manipulate my senteces. He only makes "mistakes" when he will profit by twisting up my words.

English isn't my first language either - note that I speak it somewhat... irregularly.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Sep-2004 at 15:59
Evildoer, please dont be a smart-ass about grammer. Many here dont have english as their first language.
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Note my sentence again. By "it" I was describing Mongolia. Note that the noun closest to "it" is  Mongolia. Do you need a grammer lesson? And were you not just saying that China made Mongolia under its control more prosperous???

I was talking about Hong Kong becoming more prosperous by the way not Brits.

Well, Hong Kong was taken over during 19th century so Brits have a good claim. Hong Kong is British according to your logic.

Bring your proofs of inequality. A lot of Hong Kongers detest Chinese takeover, that is why so many of them immigrated. Did they have a system to vote governors? Yes... Do they now have a system to vote for their representatives? I don't think so.

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"You were justifying Chinese takeover of Outter Mongolia, since int became much more prosperous. Thus British are also justified in taking over Hong Kong and in their whole Opium War. "

 

China never took over outer mongolia and become more prosperous you idiot, if you are talking about inner mongolia, there is nothing about taking over, the territory is formally recognized to be part of China. If you are talking about the 18th century, all countries in the world are taking over others when they have the chance, China is one of the least agressive ones for your stupidity.

 

"Thus they should have kept Hong Kong. Thus they should have taken over whole China and civillized it like they did in Hong Kong. Dosn't this resemble your arugment?"

 

If they could treat the Chinese as equals of British which they didn't yes, they should

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You were justifying Chinese takeover of Outter Mongolia, since int became much more prosperous. Thus British are also justified in taking over Hong Kong and in their whole Opium War.

Thus they should have kept Hong Kong. Thus they should have taken over whole China and civillized it like they did in Hong Kong. Dosn't this resemble your arugment?

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"What did he lose in? In being stupid? And did you win?  It apparantly seems so. "

Yes

"Oh and by the way Brits did well in fighting Opium War - look at Hong Kong, how more civillized, advanced, sophisticated it is to China.  Isn't that your logic?"

 

yes, hong kong is more sophisticated, advanced, and civilized than China thats a fact, so what are you trying to prove? You bring up random topics like you always do.

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What did he lose in? In being stupid? And did you win?  It apparantly seems so.

I am such a loser that I can confuse you into calling me propaganda... I am shocked and awed by my loserliness.

Oh and by the way Brits did well in fighting Opium War - look at Hong Kong, how more civillized, advanced, sophisticated it is to China.  Isn't that your logic?



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And I didn't know you could tell the future, you must be a psychic or just an ignorant loser. And from what you've about mongolia been more progressive than PRC, its clear you're the later.

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Licking who's butt? A loser like him doesn't have anything to lick butt with he is a butt.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Sep-2004 at 09:32
How pathetic. PRC will take over the world? Hehehe, I will suffer and die? Poor uneducated lost soul. China is being controlled by the West more than ever, and he's ready to lick some chinese butt. And the chinese on this forum seem to enjoy that, queer I say.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Sep-2004 at 08:08
Originally posted by Evildoer

 

Excuse me, but I am not a propaganda... calling humans propaganda is hilarious.  Unless I have writing and pictures posted on me front and back I am not a propaganda.

 

           when one gets desperate, he picks on the most petty things and makes fun of it....including spelling mistakes...

            mate...warhead and i have been around this forum too long and we're not unfamiliar with losers like you.

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"True, the Han, Tang, Song and Ming lasted more than the Yuan, but they never controlled the total area now controlled by the PRC. "

 

Neither did the Yuan, xing jiang was not part of the Yuan empire.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Sep-2004 at 23:44
Evildoer,
You missed one big big big big point.
Genghis Khan's empire did not die with the Ming rebellion,
it was reborn:
a. during the Qing dynasty, when Nurhaci decided to adopt a variant of the mongol script for the Manchu nation .
b. during the birth of the PRC, when Mao proclaimed in Tiananmen, that the chinese people finally stood up.

Today, the PRC is well poised to bring back Genghis Khan's empire to a new climax.
The Mongol Yuan empire defined China's boundaries and gave the Chinese people a unity that China did not break up
as it did during the previous dynasties prior to the Yuan.
True, the Han, Tang, Song and Ming lasted more than the Yuan, but they never controlled the total area now controlled by the PRC.
The Yuan defined , the Qing consolidated, and now the PRC
is in a position to expand full cycle back to what it was during the Yuan.
I am a westerner, and I had my doubts about China before I started doing business with them in the 80's, now I am convinced that they are at least an equal with a great potential of overtaking us in the West. Our Western sun
is setting, but China's sun is rising. We in the US thought that by applying sanctions we could somehow restrain and stop China's rise as our principal competitor
. However, science and technology knows no bounds, and if you have a motivated, disciplined, focused, intelligent,
common sensical, and fully integrated population, you will definitely be bound to succeed. The amusing thing, is that each year the sanctionable items start becoming less and less, and do you know why? It is because the Chinese know
us much more than we know them. They know us to be greedy
, selfish, individualistic, and materialistic. They know
that Wall Street calls the shots here. So, they play the economic game with us, they flood our market with cheap mass produced goods, in which they use German technology to produce, since , unlike us our german "allies" are willing to sell anything to China for money. Walmart, Kmart, Target and Savemart were first in line , now Macy's
, Montgomery Ward, Sears, and even Nordstrom is coming up the ladder with brands "made in china", and we patronize
these products greatly. There will come a time, where we will be forced into a love hate relationship with China,
but China seems winning the game hands down.
Recently , China televised and announced in the People's Daily, and other major news papers across the country, that it will be showing the Genghis Khan miniseries nationwide. It also recently showed two big exhibits of
newly excavated artifacts from the Yuan Dynasty in two major museums in Beijing, and it held a big conference inviting all the scholars worldwide on the Yuan dynasty and Genghis Khan to attend.
The Chinese govt today is truly the real legacy of the
great mongol empire, and there will come a point in time,
wherein the people who don't take this seriously, like
you, Chono and a few other stooges in this forum, will
suffer greatly and loose much in the end.

r's
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Sep-2004 at 23:29

"Too bad, you never mentioned the rich in the sentence or in the sentence before neither did you use a pronoun to reference them thus naturally "virtually all" means virtually all Chinese"

 

No,l since we are talking about the rich, it clearly means the rich, not my problem you don't understand it.

 

"I said I will read it tomarrow... how is that avoiding? "

 

You are avoiding the whole topic since I mentioned sui, Qin and jin were all shorter dynasties than Yuan, thus your statement of Yuan been short lived because its mongol is already proven invalid, and you're constantly avoiding it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Sep-2004 at 23:26

Too bad, you never mentioned the rich in the sentence or in the sentence before neither did you use a pronoun to reference them thus naturally "virtually all" means virtually all Chinese.

I was talking about "insults" and not your theory... How about thou teachest thouself how to read?

I said I will read it tomarrow... how is that avoiding?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Sep-2004 at 23:24
warhead, you don't need to argue with him. Arguing with a fool will only bring down you to his level. Its clear that he is desperate in his arguments already, just look at the way he avoids the major topics.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Sep-2004 at 23:11
Now its quite obvious you're avoiding the original discussion on how the revolt isn't directed against the mongols but against the rich in general. But that isn't surprising considering people who are devoid of sources and try to maintain their lies despite they are wrong and they knew it.
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