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    Posted: 27-Feb-2006 at 08:37
I never said that there is predestination. That term implies that the future WAS designed in the past. I don't think that's possible. The past and the future ARE created simultaneously both in this space-time and (probably) in the WHOLE.

As above, as below. As below, as above. 

If you dont believe in human time, then feel free to leave this forum.


I feel free to do it, naturally.

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  Quote Voyager Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Feb-2006 at 07:15
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You are too sure of what you think you are sure. I don't believe in predestination but in the inexistence of time.

Time can only be mathematized as an imaginary number (square root of -1), what do you make out of that? What do you make out of the 10 dimensions that seem necesary to explain the Universe?

I say that we live in a videogame but that there is more outside it.

Your mental contortions will never cease to surprise me. Youve been talking about predestination and now you turn to inexistence of time. Well, for your information, history is about time. And a human time, not a time already made by gods or whatever and to which some enlightened humans have privileged access. If you dont believe in human time, then feel free to leave this forum.



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I  don`t  really  believe in any prophecies,  however I like to try and figure them out.


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I've read several interpretations of Nostradamus, and they all seem to describe variations on the same theme.  The scenario goes something like this: sometime around the beginning of the 21st century, a force ("Mabus"--the Antichrist) will arise somewhere in Asia.  This force will come to dominate Asia, then it will commence a campaign of world conquest by joining forces with allies in the Islamic world.  The Eastern/Islamic forces would then invade Europe and launch attacks on their arch-enemies described by Nostradamus as "two brothers of the North."  These brothers are usually identified as America and its European allies, but sometimes Russia is described as partnered with America.  Eventually, however, some great hero (called "Prince Henry" by Nostradamus) will arise and lead the Western world to ultimate victory over Mabus.  Before that happens though, a great conflagration would ensue in a WWIII scenario in which weapons of mass destruction are used.
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  Quote Socrates Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Feb-2006 at 04:34

Originally posted by Maju


I say that we live in a videogame but that there is more outside it.

Could it be that Maju believes in higher instances? 

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Originally posted by Voyager

Originally posted by Maju

Originally posted by Voyager

... the future because it hasn't yet happened.


Are you sure?


I have this lousy habit of only speaking of what I'm sure.
Are you one of those persons that believes that life is already pre-determined by an "omnipotent force" such as God or Nature? Because if you do, I think that a history forum is not the right place for you.


You are too sure of what you think you are sure. I don't believe in predestination but in the inexistence of time.

Time can only be mathematized as an imaginary number (square root of -1), what do you make out of that? What do you make out of the 10 dimensions that seem necesary to explain the Universe?

I say that we live in a videogame but that there is more outside it.

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  Quote Maju Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Feb-2006 at 02:15
Originally posted by docyabut

 III97
New law to occupy the new land
Towards Syria, Judea and Palestine:
The great barbarian empire to decay,
Before the Moon completes it cycle.

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Two royal brothers will wage war so fiercely
That between them the war will be so mortal
That both will occupy the strong places:
Their great quarrel will fill realm and life.

Now this sounds like the sons of Abraham, a quarrel that still going on today.

I  don`t  really  believe in any prophecies,  however I like to try and figure them out.



I do read the first quatrain as the fall of Ottoman Empire and the rise of Israel.

But the second does't mean to me what you see. Most quatrains seem isolated from each other, what makes their study frustrating... I imagine there's a numeric code to put the verses together in a coherent narration but I fail to find it.

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  Quote Maju Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Feb-2006 at 02:12
Originally posted by Land of Aryan

I.70

Rain, famine and war will not cease in Persia;
too great a faith will betray the monarch.
Those (actions) started in France will end there,
a secret sign for on to be sparing.

intend to Khomieni & After islamic rev.??
if yes, 1st line is 100% true


I do agree that this century talks of the Islamic revolution.

How do you read the last verse?

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  Quote docyabut Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Feb-2006 at 00:12

 III97
New law to occupy the new land
Towards Syria, Judea and Palestine:
The great barbarian empire to decay,
Before the Moon completes it cycle.

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Two royal brothers will wage war so fiercely
That between them the war will be so mortal
That both will occupy the strong places:
Their great quarrel will fill realm and life.

Now this sounds like the sons of Abraham, a quarrel that still going on today.

I  don`t  really  believe in any prophecies,  however I like to try and figure them out.

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I.70

Rain, famine and war will not cease in Persia;
too great a faith will betray the monarch.
Those (actions) started in France will end there,
a secret sign for on to be sparing.

intend to Khomieni & After islamic rev.??
if yes, 1st line is 100% true
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III- 91

In the city of the new-born bears,
the gates will open for those,
who fly high on currents of the north wind
and drink water from gilden cups.

Germany will win the WC in 2006.
Although you don't need Nostradamus to work that out.
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 I- 87 Earthshaking fire from the center of the earth
will cause tremors around the New City.
Two great rocks will war for a long time,
then Arethusa will redden a new river.


 two great rocks will war together( tectonic plates)?

Arethusa  ( goddess of the stream of lava )

Garden of the world near the new city,
In the path of the hollow mountains:
It will be seized and plunged into the Tub,
Forced to drink waters poisoned by sulfur

hollow mountians( 16century view Of skyscrapers? )

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  Quote ArmenianSurvival Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Feb-2006 at 14:09
Originally posted by Maju

"The centuries" are a sequance of quatrains (poems of 4 verses) are organized in 10 centuries, mostly of 100 quatrains each but some with less. Then there are other related or unrelated prophecies.


     So why are they all called "predictions", when most of what he wrote already happened?
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Garden of the world near the new city,
In the path of the hollow mountains:
It will be seized and plunged into the Tub,
Forced to drink waters poisoned by sulfur.

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  Quote Voyager Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Feb-2006 at 06:27
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Originally posted by Voyager

... the future because it hasn't yet happened.


Are you sure?


I have this lousy habit of only speaking of what I'm sure.
Are you one of those persons that believes that life is already pre-determined by an "omnipotent force" such as God or Nature? Because if you do, I think that a history forum is not the right place for you.
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  Quote Maju Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Feb-2006 at 00:02
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     Wait, on the website with his predictions, why are they broken up into centuries I-X?


"The centuries" are a sequance of quatrains (poems of 4 verses) are organized in 10 centuries, mostly of 100 quatrains each but some with less. Then there are other related or unrelated prophecies.

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  Quote ArmenianSurvival Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Feb-2006 at 22:57
     Wait, on the website with his predictions, why are they broken up into centuries I-X?
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  Quote Maju Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Feb-2006 at 22:20
Originally posted by Land of Aryan

Really??
Keep ready Maju, We are coming devildevil


I have nothing against Iranians, you know... but a Khomeinist invasion would be scary...

Anyhow N. can be wrong and I can be wrong in my interpretation as well...

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  Quote Maju Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Feb-2006 at 22:09
Originally posted by Voyager

... the future because it hasn't yet happened.


Are you sure?

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  Quote Voyager Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Feb-2006 at 20:16
Originally posted by Imperator Invictus

The problem with the "predictions" is that that "predictions" are made after the event has occured.

You said it all. Nostradamus and all futurologists tell more about humans and their anxieties about the future than what is really going to happen. It is simply impossible to know the future because it hasn't yet happened.
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Really??
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