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    Posted: 01-Jan-2006 at 11:38
Originally posted by rider

Originally posted by Maju

Turkey wasn't any great power, nor was Poland either.

I and hugoestr thank you greatly!!!



I was talking about historicity, nothing else. I'm a fanatic of historical accuracy in games and particularly in Diplomacy variants. Would I re-create this scenario, I would make significative changes:
  • UK, France and Germany would have 4 SCs. French would be Algeria and British would be Egypt.
  • Poland, Turkey, Spain and Iran would be played powers with 2 SCs each. Special victory conditions would allow them to get victory in alliance with a major or something of the like.
  • Most neutrals would be armed minors, including Austria, Hungary, Netherlands, Belgium, Bulgaria, Portugal and Iraq.
  • The map would be a little more accurate geographically.

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Yes, Livonia is total nonsense. There were different countries then: EStonia and Latvia and many other idiotic things that I hate.

 

Lets make that the deadline is on Wednesday? This week? If it isn't already, you haven't posted it in this topic.
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Yes the deadline is Wesdnesday 4th at 22:00 GMT. Sorry for not posting that here but I did post that to you all via email. Please consider always email notifications as the oficial ones and this just as a billboard.

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Well, I do it mostly, but I am not used to search e-mails. I do save all the ones I need in hundreds of different folders but only after the turn... and even when I did so with one file the other was forgotten and now is amongst 300 e-mails...
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On request I'm posting the full list of provinces with their abbreviations:



Adr - Adriatic Sea
Aeg - Aegean Sea
Alb - Albania,        &nbs p;         
Alg - Algeria
Ank - Ankara
Apu - Apulia
Arm - Armenia
Ath - Athens
Aus - Austria
Bar - Barents Sea
Bel - Belgium
Beo - Beograd
Ber - Berlin
Bla - Black Sea
Bre - Brest
Buc - Bucharest
Bul - Bulgaria
Bur - Burgundy
Bye - Byelorussia
Cat - Catalonia
Cly - Clyde
Con - Constantinople
Cro - Croatia
Dan - Danzig
Den - Denmark
EBS - East Baltic Sea
EMS - Eastern Mediterranean Sea
EPr - Eastern Prussia
Edi - Edinburgh
Egy - Egypt
Eng - English Channel
Fin - Finland
Gal - Galicia
Gas - Gascony
GOB - Gulf of Bothnia
GOL - Gulf of Lyon
Ham - Hamburg
Hel - Heligoland Bight
Hol - Holland
Hun - Hungary
Ion - Ionian Sea
Ire - Ireland
Iri - Irish Sea
Kie - Kiev
Kur - Kurdistan
Kra - Krakow
Lap - Lappland
Lat - Latvia/Estonia
Len - Leningrad
Lib - Libya
Lit - Lithuania
Liv - Liverpool
Lon - London
Mad - Madrid
Mar - Marseilles
MAO - Mid Atlantic Ocean
Mol - Moldavia
Mor - Morocco
Mos - Moscow
Mun - Munich
Nap - Naples
Nav - Navarre
NAO - North Atlantic Ocean
Nth - North Sea
Nwg - Norwegian Sea
Osl - Oslo
Pal - Palestine
Par - Paris
Pic - Picardy
Pie - Piedmont
Por - Portugal
Pra - Prague
Pri - Pripet
Pru - Prussia
Rhi - Rhineland
Rom - Rome
Sev - Sevastopol
Sil - Silesia
Ska - Skagerrak
Slo - Slovakia
Smy - Smyrna
SOG - Straits of Gibraltar
Swe - Sweden
Swi - Switzerland
Syr - Syria
The - Thessaly
Tra - Transylvania
Tri - Trieste
Tun - Tunis
Tus - Tuscany
Tys - Tyrrhenian Sea
Wal - Wales
War - Warsaw
WBS - West Baltic Sea
WMS - Western Mediterranean Sea
Wie - Wielpolska
Yor - Yorkshire

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Adjudication Spring 1929:
The New York Times
Little European nations in Danger.

  German Anschluss in Austria, French take control of Switzerland, Turks invade Bulgaria, Poles occupy Vlinus.

 Czechoslovakia has launched a preventive attack against Germany, occupying Silesia.
Rumania annexes Bessarabia with Politburo's  permission.
Naval clashes in the Black Sea and the English Channel.


Other Press:

An anonymous leaflet said:
 
France didn't help Russia get Sweden.


Deadline for Fall 1929: Monday 9 at 23:59 GMT.


Adjudication Spring 1929:

Poland:
F Danzig - East Baltic Sea
A Krakow - Slovakia
A Warsaw - Lithuania

Britain:
F Edinburgh - North Sea
A Liverpool - Yorkshire
F London - English Channel (*Bounce*)

France:
F Brest - English Channel (*Bounce*)
A Marseilles - Switzerland
A Paris - Burgundy

Germany:
A Berlin - Hamburg
F Hamburg - Heligoland Bight
A Munich - Austria

Italy:
F Naples - Tyrrhenian Sea
A Rome - Trieste
A Trieste - Piedmont

USSR:
A Kiev Hold
F Leningrad(sc) - Gulf of Bothnia
A Moscow - Leningrad
F Sevastopol - Black Sea (*Bounce*)

Turkey:
F Ankara - Black Sea (*Bounce*)
A Constantinople - Bulgaria
A Smyrna - Kurdistan

Czechoslovakia:
A Prague - Silesia

Egypt:
F Egypt - Eastern Mediterranean Sea

Greece:
A Athens Hold

Rumania:
A Bucharest - Moldavia

Spain:
F Madrid - Catalonia

Sweden:
F Sweden - Skagerrak

Yugoslavia:
A Beograd Supports A Constantinople - Bulgaria

Operational map (Spring 1929):


New map (Fall 1929):

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Please, everyone look at the Baltic Sea on this map: doesn't it look like a crocodile? It sure looks to me that way...
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Originally posted by rider

Please, everyone look at the Baltic Sea on this map: doesn't it look like a crocodile? It sure looks to me that way...


Stop smoking that stuff...

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Well, doesn't it. Kattegat and SKagerrak are it's tail, Bothnia is his upper jaw, Gulf of Finland is the lower jaw and central Baltic is his body. And he is about to eat Finland.

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Oops, I gotta announce that I will be abroad next week due to religious feast holiday here in Turkey and I won't have internet access next week.

So, I will send orders for this turn, but for the next turn, after the retreat season, if you can stretch the deadline a little bit,I would be most happy

I will go on this Sunday and return the next Saturday...
We gave up your happiness
Your hope would be enough;
we couldn't find neither;
we made up sorrows for ourselves;
we couldn't be consoled;

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I agree with Kaipkulu.

Next week is religious holiday and a break for final exams and we may be off the game.

I would like to ask for an extension lasting at least 1 week after this turn.
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If you want an extension, please send an email with the request and details. It will be granted but let's do things right, ok?

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Calm down.
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I'm calmed: I just want the request to be made oficially.

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And I officially made it so that ''everyone'' could udnerstand the situation.
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And how can that be? I believe that every single person who knows English even a little, can understand:

Next week is religious holiday and a break for final exams and we may be off the game.

 

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Originally posted by Maju



Other Press:

An anonymous leaflet said:
 
France didn't help Russia get Sweden.



Oddly enough, I did not wright this.  Are we still sending in secret anonymous news letters who is this just a GM note?
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I remind that my House Rules allow for white (signed) and gray (anonymous) press. They don't allow for black (under a false identity) press. Aditionally I also write my own press that is (in this game) "The New York Times", commenting rather neutrally on the last turn's moves in a way that "colors" the game but does not favor any side nor disclose any secret clue I may have.

Only what is under the NYT's header is GM press, the rest, as this "leaflet", is players' or observers' press (though observers can only write white press). The mentioned case is a clear case of grey anonymous press by a player on whose identity I just can't comment.

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Originally posted by TheDiplomat

And I officially made it so that ''everyone'' could udnerstand the situation.


I haven't recieved yet any oficial request via email or anything.

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There is no need for e-mail...it does not make a difference.

because not only GM should be informed about the extension,but all players ..so the best way to make a request is to put it on the thread.

I dont like bureacracy on internet forums as well
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