Arizona: Home of GOP policy and racism

Edited by Cryptic - 03-May-2010 at 20:16

Originally posted by Cryptic Not different at all.  You need to look at core concepts more.

There are so many flaws in this post, I'll go through them one by one:

Originally posted by Cryptic The 1980s and 2008 are very similar.

Not at all.

Originally posted by Cryptic  For example: -One party representing a socio economic political world view wins big due to a rival's incompetence and drift to the extremes

Your first flaw is assuming that the Democrats have a different socio economic political world, as in extremely different. This is not true. Its conservative propaganda, they've called the Democrats communist so much that they actually believe they are...

Originally posted by Cryptic -They become "dizzy with success"

Nobody is dizzy with success, as a matter of fact, Obama has fallen behind in many of the things he promised to do because the Republican Party is blocking everything it can and slowing down the process.

This is a good thing, as it makes the Republicans look bad and makes the Democrats look good and actually prevents them from getting "dizzy with success" by making them work harder.

Originally posted by Cryptic -They cant conceive that they will make mistakes or face a competent opponent

There is no competent opponent, and who says they cant conceive that they will make mistakes? You?

Originally posted by Cryptic -Some members even start to believe ther own propaganda about their inherent supereority

What propaganda about inherent superiority are you talking about? This is flawed in that you are assuming that "superiority" has to do with wanting to help other human beings.

My suggestion is that you stop making assumptions and actually try to base your argument on solid facts.

TGS please stop throwing the race card! It seems you are very obsessed with it and anything white conservatives do is racist such as the Tea party. Do you know what La Raza stands for? The media seems to have ignored the violence caused by rock throwing illegals in Phoenix. I know this group only represents a small % and most illegals would avoid this violence.

If you watch the video Arpaio and Montgomery both deny any connections with these neo Nutzies. How do we really know they are Nazi but maybe they are Neo-commies trying to make Arpaio look bad. I will look more into this to see if these men supports the Nazi movement or if is false.   I hate NAZI’s so if this is so then of course I will not vote for such men.

I support the Arizona law which mirrors Federal law but the latter is not being enforced because of special interests such as Agri Business. My sister in law is Mexican American and she supports it and my girl friend is half Mexican and she does, I love Mexicans. They both have degrees and are very educated so are they racists in your opinion? The President of the Minute Men is Mexican American and the County commissioner of Canyon County in Idaho is 100% Mexican American and he supports such laws. They are American first and foremost so please stop with the race baiting. I will consult with Red Clay about this!


I have spent time in Mexico to help build shelter, homes, provide food; clothing, toys and other support- have you?????

I hope to go down sometime soon to visit orphanages and help in other ways, maybe this summer. I don't care where people come from as long as they are here legally!!!!!!

It seems my friend, you have this entire section to yourself!

That is, unless it is closed!

Regards,

Originally posted by eaglecap TGS please stop throwing the race card! It seems you are very obsessed with it and anything white conservatives do is racist such as the Tea party. Do you know what La Raza stands for? The media seems to have ignored the violence caused by rock throwing illegals in Phoenix. I know this group only represents a small % and most illegals would avoid this violence.

I'm just going to quote Bill Maher: ""I would never say and I have never said, because it's not true that Republicans, all republicans are racists. That would be silly and wrong. But now days, if you are racist, you're probably a Republican. And that is quite different."

The fact that conservatives like you want to sweep racism on the rug and pretend like its no longer an big part of American society astounds me and is frankly very frightening.

Racism is still around, is is a big part of what is going on in our society here today. I just posted above, a video of a sheriff who is running for the governorship of Arizona and who is also the most popular Republican in the state with a 70% approval rating, who stops, talks to Neo-Nazi's and poses for pictures with them. Yet this does not shock you?!

I also posted an article regarding how a Republican politician who supported this new law follows two racist groups on his twitter page. This does not shock you?!

I also posted an article which talked about the backgrounds of more of these Republican politicians who pushed this thing through...

I guess none of you bothered to read any of them.

I will pull the race card whenever I see fit! Free speech right? Whats your problem with me doing that? If the guy is a racist, I'm gonna call him a racist.

Originally posted by eaglecap If you watch the video Arpaio and Montgomery both deny any connections with these neo Nutzies.

No, that was the public video taken by a News Crew. The second video is after the rally and is an amateur video. IN PUBLIC THEY LIED, AFTERWARDS ARPAIO WENT AND TALKED TO THEM AND POSED FOR PICTURES WITH THEM.

Originally posted by eaglecap  How do we really know they are Nazi but maybe they are Neo-commies trying to make Arpaio look bad. I will look more into this to see if these men supports the Nazi movement or if is false.   I hate NAZI’s so if this is so then of course I will not vote for such men.

Yes, just sweep racism under the rug...So you think that after only 40 years since the Civil War movement everything is ok now? Delusional...

Originally posted by eaglecap I support the Arizona law which mirrors Federal law but the latter is not being enforced because of special interests such as Agri Business. My sister in law is Mexican American and she supports it and my girl friend is half Mexican and she does, I love Mexicans. They both have degrees and are very educated so are they racists in your opinion? The President of the Minute Men is Mexican American and the County commissioner of Canyon County in Idaho is 100% Mexican American and he supports such laws. They are American first and foremost so please stop with the race baiting. I will consult with Red Clay about this!

Once again... I dont care who YOU know. Who YOU know means nothing to mean. Furthermore, if the employment of illegal immigrants is the problem (which it is, if there were no jobs, illegals wouldnt be coming here) THEN GO AFTER THE BUSINESSES, but Republicans dont want to do that...why?

Race baiting? Race baiting who? I can't have my opinion? Looks like you guys arent constitutionalists at all? IF YOU DONT LIKE WHAT I'M SAYING YOU DONT HAVE TO READ IT, AND I'M NOT BREAKING ANY FORUM RULES, SO EITHER ABUSE YOUR MODERATOR POWER TO SHUT ME UP, OR ACCEPT THE FACT THAT I HAVE SOMETHING CALLED FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND FREEDOM OF OPINION.

Originally posted by eaglecap I have spent time in Mexico to help build shelter, homes, provide food; clothing, toys and other support- have you????? I hope to go down sometime soon to visit orphanages and help in other ways, maybe this summer. I don't care where people come from as long as they are here legally!!!!!!

What do I care? Why are you so insecure and feel like you have to show me that you're not racist? Who ever called you a racist in the first place? I COULDNT CARE LESS WHAT YOU HAVE DONE OR WHO YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT IN QUESTION HERE SO QUIT IT, I DONT REALLY CARE ABOUT YOUR PERSONAL LIFE.

Originally posted by Cryptic   Our conversations in this particular thread have become pointless. I was hoping for something more.

I completely agree. Having a discussion with people who dont use facts or sources and refuse to read anything or acknowledge when they are wrong is truly pointless.

HEY EAGLECAP YOU RESEARCH THAT STUFF ABOUT TAXES UNDER OBAMA YET? WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO ADMIT YOU WERE WRONG ABOUT IT?