Documentray: Stolen Kosovo

 

I'd like to see more proof that the Chetniks were going around slaugthering civilians en masse. I don't doubt that some Chetniks did that. But the Chetniks in large were unorganized groups working individually as guerilla fighters.

 

"Again, who the hell is Thompson?"

Scroll up I explained it.

 

"As for Bat Yeor, well, again, if you want a discussion, be my guest, you started this topic you finish it, open a new thread and I will be more than happy to discuss the issue with you. The woman is paranoid cook with no credentials whatsoever, except from cooks like her. She judges the 7th century attitudes with 20th century ideals and that is in my opinion enough. She ignores historical facts and cherrypicks historical events to support her arguments. She hates Islam, muslims and anything it stands for. If you want more I will go on and on I have all summer and since it is in the 40s C I have all the time in the world, start the topic and I will continue."

 

I simply placed that there in relation to the topic at hand. People here saying that the Turkish tyranny is "over estimated" and such. I have no interests right now to speak about Islam outside this context here. Perhaps Islam is peaceful loving and all that glitter within the "Realm of the believer" but in the "realm of the infidel" things seem to get a bit more messy then that.

 

As for kicking the Turks ass, in the end they ruled over Romania for nearly 400 years, in those 400 years why haven't you ancestors became muslim and spoke Turkish?

 

AL-Jassas 

 

Of course they don't teach us about Vlad the impaler, they teach us about Saud Al-Kabir, the third ruler of the first Saudi state, who invaded Iraq and Syria and crushed two huge Ottoman expeditions, they teach us what the Turks did when they distroyed the first Saudi state and the massacred people all the way from Madinah to Riyadh and nearly obliterated the Saud clan, its not part of the correculum but my history teacher taught me what my tribe did to a Turkish brigade during that war that I won't mention it because Vlad would look like an angle. We don't like the Ottoman, we joined the Brits against them in WWI and were in constant war for hundreds of years. But I am not from the kind of people who are spoonfed an idea and consider it as sacred as the Quran, or Bible in your case. I read history from all kinds of sources and I changed a lot of my ideas after going through a lengthy process and I am willing to do that with any idea once there is sufficient proof it is correct.

 

As for Ottoman rule over Romania, well the ottomans changed rulers, forced Turkish settlement, had many garrisons and directly controlled the Danube and certain cities, if this was done while they were paying tribute, then what is going to happen when they directly rule the place?

 

Al-Jassas 

 

The turks had many forts inside Romania territory, several parts of Roman and Moldavan territory were organized into sanjaks which is of course equivalent to county level in Ottoman administration especially in Bessarabia. The entire Black sea coast was under direct Ottoman rule and hence the existance of most romanian Turks there (Dobruja region).

 

As for Romania using Cyrillic, it was used in Romania till the 1920s and in Moldova till the 1980s, I don't know which country you come from but you should have known this.

 

Al-Jassas

 

So it was Serbia's policies wich forced the international comunity to take action.

 

Kosovo has once declared indipendence in early nineties,but it was not recognised by any country exept Albania.

 

Kosovo was long and hard trying to peacefully take back the autonomy wich was ilegaly striped of by Miloshevic,but no country was willing to help.

 

It is the same autonomy Serbia is offereing now that it lost the war.It could have easyly engaged in peacefull diplomacy with Ibrahim Rugova then,and Kosovo would still be part of Serbia and autonomus,but Miloshevic and Serbian nationalist did not want the 90% albanian population there to be in charge and since there was no suport for Albanians anywhere in the world decided to go it with a crazy adventure of genocide.

 

It backfired,they lost the war,and now they crying their loss.They embarked with russias help into a campaign of black propaganda,once plaing the christian drama,once plaing with history,atacking albania's national identity,on Right wing forums attacking albania of benig Muslim,or Jew suporter,and on left wing attacking albania of being NAZI.

 

They contradict themselves most of the time.

 

Two days ago the President of Albania after Tadic claim (in a regional gathering of the balkan leaders) that in Kosovo have been destroyed Serbian churchees,replyed by telling him that Serbia should start looking at the future,at a future of integration.