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    Posted: 15-May-2006 at 09:35
Originally posted by BlueDragonRider7

Originally posted by Azeriturko

Azerbaijan=comes from greek ''Atropatan'', wich means ---->The land of fire

I don't think that you would need to go all the way to Greece to find the root of the word Azerbaijan ...when In Persian Azer/Azar means Fire and Baijan is reffered to a land or field of ....



Atropatan ?  I nwhich greek dialect ?
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Originally posted by RomiosArktos

Are you sure that El means light in Greek?Interesting etymology anyway!!
I thought however that the name Hellas was derived from a Greek tribe that was living next to the oracle of Dodoni in Epirus,the Selli tribe.I am not sure though.

The most popular explanation of this name is "land of light". One possible version is that  "Hellas" derived from the tribe "Selli", but the name of this tribe is connected with the word "selini" (moon) or the "selas" (polar aurora), which both have the meaning of light.

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Originally posted by Azeriturko

Azerbaijan=comes from greek ''Atropatan'', wich means ---->The land of fire

I don't think that you would need to go all the way to Greece to find the root of the word Azerbaijan ...when In Persian Azer/Azar means Fire and Baijan is reffered to a land or field of ....

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AH! Most of this forum is a battle ground between the Macedonian and the Greek! My background is Persian and as far as I recall, Alexander is called "Esscandar-e- Maghdooni" in Persian ... which literally means Alexander of Macedonia! and farther more ... Mejmoon (Meymoon) meaning monkey as you would say is a Mecedonian word... well it's not! It's a Persian word ... Perhaps the Macedonians picked it up during their campaign in Iran from the Persian people... and to my fellow Iranian friend, Cyrus Shahmiri, what's all that non-sense about Macedonia being Egypt? I think it's all made up... anyway... I hope that everyone stop this stupid conflict between nations in here ... after all Alexander was not as glorious a character as they have made him... he was practically the Hitler of the ancient world... he was the first to burn many cities and books in Iran while he slaughtered Thousands of people. I would be ashamed to say that he was even related to any of my ancestors.

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  Quote RomiosArktos Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-May-2006 at 05:53
Are you sure that El means light in Greek?Interesting etymology anyway!!
I thought however that the name Hellas was derived from a Greek tribe that was living next to the oracle of Dodoni in Epirus,the Selli tribe.I am not sure though.
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  Quote dorian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-May-2006 at 17:50
Hellas: [Ellas= El (=light) + las (=stone) = land of light
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  Quote Kamran the Great Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-May-2006 at 04:13
Iran, of course, means Land of the Aryans.
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  Quote armenica Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Feb-2006 at 07:20
Originally posted by Cyrus Shahmiri

Iran: [Airyana=Airia(Aryan)+Ana(way)] = Land of Aryans
Afghanistan: [Afghan(Shout) + Istan(Land)] = Land of people who speak loudly
Pakistan: [Pak(Pure) + Istan(Land)] = Land of Pure (Muslims)
India: [Hindustan=Hindu(Sindh) + Istan(Land)] = Land of people who live beside Sindh (Indus) river
Georgia: [Gorgistan=Gorj(?)+ Istan(Land)] = Land of Gorjs
Tajikistan: [Taj(Crown) + ik(Head) + Istan(Land)] = Land of people who wear crown on their head
Azerbaijan: [Azerbaigan=Azer(Fire)+Baigan(Place)] = Land of Fire
Armenia: [Aramnistan=Aramn(Peace)+Istan(Land)] = Land of Peace




According to legend the leader of the Armenians was a man by the name of Hayk, whom the Armenians regard as their tribal father and therefore call themselves r “hay” (hay), i.e. the sons of Hayk, and their country Hayastan (the country of Hayk). Another more scientific explanation about the naming of the Armenian people is based on the original tribes which make up the presentday Armenian population. . The local people who lived in the area at the time of the arrival of the Indo-European tribes were called the Arme-Shupria people (the people of King Arame). The invading Indo-Europeans called themselves the Hayatsa people and came in time to dominate the Armenian highland and assimilate the Arme-Shuprias. Based on the names of these two people, the Armenians called themselves by the name of the dominant tribal name, i.e. “Hay” and the country Hayastan, while their neighbours called them by their old name: Armenians and their country Armenia. Another theory simply suggests that the name Armenian is a corruption of “Aryan men”, the name given by the natives to the newly arrived Indo-Europeans.

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Iraq means rots... which refers to that civilisation started there, so I have been told.
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Originally posted by Temujin

the town however has to be pronounced A-schaffenburg and not Asch-affenburg, the Asch and affen thing is just coincidence.



Well, as i said, "the written name".
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  Quote Temujin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Feb-2006 at 16:46
the town however has to be pronounced A-schaffenburg and not Asch-affenburg, the Asch and affen thing is just coincidence.
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Feb-2006 at 16:26
to ulrich von hutten:
"well ,your careerstar seems not to be acompanied by a good star, cause your translation was totaly wrong. Aschaffenburg must be translated in to Ass-Monkey Castle. "

Well, Komnenos has answered already good enough. And whilest i had my own schooltime in a school, especially centered on the german language, i think, i know well enough the difference between asch and arsch   

But it was interesting point about the Jacobs-Sisters. Really never heard about them. By the strophe you have given, seems to be a funny song.
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and yea i see some people couldnt figure out where Turk came from..

it comes from word ( turuk ) verb ( turemek ) ...

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Mexico means " in the middle of the moon ".
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Feb-2006 at 02:59
Originally posted by Ellinas

Hellas (Greece) means land of light as already some mentioned.

some mentioned?? it is ok to say it .. it was a Turk who mentioned it ...
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Originally posted by mongke

Originally posted by Winterhaze13

There is a funny story about the origin of Canada. When Jacques Cartier came to Canada he mistook the world "Kanata", as being a native nation like the ojibwa, but the native who he was talking to was refering to a village. So the word "Kanata", which eventually evolved into Canada means village. Nice story I think.

 

Yeah as far as I am concerned Canada is a village compared to the US.

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  Quote Temujin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Feb-2006 at 16:19
deep south? i should have given you a Strassenatlas as christmas present!
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  Quote Komnenos Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Feb-2006 at 16:04
Originally posted by ulrich von hutten

Originally posted by parakaru

Well, I would start my 'career' in this forum with a
simple quiz. There is a state in the Europe, and in the EU, where there
is a city, the written name of which in their language literally means
"The Castle of the Ash-Monkeys".
Tell me te state and tell me the city.

well ,your careerstar seems not to be acompanied by a good star,
cause your translation was totaly wrong. Aschaffenburg must be
translated in to Ass-Monkey Castle. And have you ever heared about the
lovely Jacob Sisters,who had a chart-breaker with the song :Auf dem
wege nach Aschaffenburg ,da brannten alle Affen durch -means On way the
way to A** Monkey Castly ,the escape of the monkeys was vastly..


It seems like I should have given you German-English dictionary for Xmas.
"Asch-Affen-Bug" of course means "castle of the ash-monkeys", while the term "ass-monkey-castle" you propose would correctly be translated as "Arsch-Affen-Burg".
Considering the town is somewhere in the deep south of Germany that might have been the original meaning, and the "r" might have been dropped sometime in the past.
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  Quote ulrich von hutten Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Feb-2006 at 15:20
Originally posted by parakaru

Well, I would start my 'career' in this forum with a simple quiz. There is a state in the Europe, and in the EU, where there is a city, the written name of which in their language literally means "The Castle of the Ash-Monkeys".
Tell me te state and tell me the city.

well ,your careerstar seems not to be acompanied by a good star, cause your translation was totaly wrong. Aschaffenburg must be translated in to Ass-Monkey Castle. And have you ever heared about the lovely Jacob Sisters,who had a chart-breaker with the song :Auf dem wege nach Aschaffenburg ,da brannten alle Affen durch -means On way the way to A** Monkey Castly ,the escape of the monkeys was vastly..

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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Feb-2006 at 14:50
Aschaffenburg, Germany. The written name, because they pronuncate the City name a bit different - with pressure on "schaf"-part, instead of "asch"-part. Originally it was Ascaphaburc, by the location of the Castle. During the yearhundreds it has changed to produce such strange result.

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