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    Posted: 15-Nov-2004 at 10:30
There never was a Maya empire. The Mayas lived in city states. Sometimes they formed confederations, but none of these got really large.

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Well you cant really judge empires on size alone as empires like the Mongolian empire werent completely controlled by the mongols, much of it was just barren land. If you go on the theory of size alone, the bigest empire was controlled by the first creature to have thoughts of control, he/she/it was the 'unchallenged' ruler of the world. rwar! 



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  Quote Temujin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Nov-2004 at 12:05
Originally posted by Mr Bobo

Well you cant really judge empires on size alone as empires like the Mongolian empire werent completely controlled by the mongols, much of it was just barren land. If you go on the theory of size alone, the bigest empire was controlled by the first creature to have thoughts of control, he/she/it was the 'unchallenged' ruler of the world. rwar! 

bah, so what exactly did the brits rule? nothing! the Mongols did not control "just barren land", they destroyed many large and migthy empries to get where they've been, which large and migthy emprie s did the british destroy? none! even Spanish conquered Aztecs and Incas which were powerfull empires, so they're much more of an emprie than Great Britain ever was.

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  Quote warhead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Nov-2004 at 16:26

" I will say that the Spanish Empire was the largest one."

 

They also don't count.

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Originally posted by warhead

1) Mongol empire:  9.3 million sq mile

2) Tang empire: 4.8 million sq mile

3) Tujue empire: 4 million sq mile

4) Umayyad Caliph: 3.5 million sq mile

5) Xiongnu empire: 2.4 million sq mile

6) Roman empire: 2.4 million sq mile

7) Achmenid empire: 2.3 million sq mile

8) Macedonian Empire: 2.2 million sq mile

9) Xianbei empire: 1.9 million sq mile

10) Seljuk Empire: 1.8 million sq mile

Thank you, now could someone say what empires 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 9, and 10 were?  I can imagine probably most are Chinese and Oriental, and maybe a couple are Indian.  I've heard of Seljuk before.  And I'm surprised the Persian empire isn't on there, unless it really is under a different name.

And can I stress how I said before the invention of the handheld gun!  That means both the Spanish and British empires suck.

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  Quote warhead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Nov-2004 at 14:40

"2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 9, and 10 were?"

2) Chinese dynasty from 618-907

3) Gokturk empire which occupied mongolia from mid 6th-8th century

4) Islamic empire

5) Asiatic hunnic empire that occupied mongolia from 3rd century b.c.-2nd century a.d.

7) Persian empire

9) Brief empire in mongolia established by Tang Shi Huai in the middle of 2nd century a.d.

10) Turkish empire that swept through the middle east in the 11th century, part of the reason the crusades are sent.

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You forgot about Zululand...
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Nov-2004 at 11:54
Alexander the Great's was probably the biggest non-fractured.
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  Quote Tobodai Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Nov-2004 at 15:10
no it want, it was the about the same as Timurs and only a 1/3 of pre-split Mongol empire, and dont forget Spanish empire int eh Americas
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Nov-2004 at 11:23

Originally posted by Tobodai

no it want, it was the about the same as Timurs and only a 1/3 of pre-split Mongol empire, and dont forget Spanish empire int eh Americas

i thought this was pre-handheld gun.  if not the British control 25% of the world.

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  Quote Demetrios Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Nov-2004 at 17:40

   The true  question is: " Which was the biggest empire considering only fertile lands and populated regions"

   The roman empire wins

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  Quote Imperator Invictus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Nov-2004 at 18:10
No, the Mongol Empire would still be three times as big in populated regions.

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  Quote Demetrios Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Nov-2004 at 18:46
  Wrong check any map, take the mongol empire united under only one "khan" at his peack, remove the steppes. Just be objective
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  Quote Imperator Invictus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Nov-2004 at 20:08
Actually, the Roman Empire was only about 2.2 to 2.4 million sq miles. Modern China is 3.7 million sq miles. The Eastern Khanate of the Mongols included modern china and much more. The Roman Empire also had alot of lowly populated areas such as half the north african desert, parts of Iberia, and alot of land conquered from the barbarians,
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  Quote Demetrios Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Nov-2004 at 20:18

 wrong :

 yes modern china is big, but ancient is not: remove neimenggu, xizang, xinjiang, heilongjiang  yunnan nor qinghai. So classical chinese size would only be 1.5 million.

 The yuan never had an empire including all modern china, check maps

 Don't forget that at this time romans only took the fertile and populated north africa.

 the small lowly populated part of iberia can't compared with the huge lowly populated and unfertile steppes 

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  Quote Demetrios Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Nov-2004 at 20:45

 We're speaking about empire so it mean controled and administered territories, not tributary states( which generally don't bother themself making war, just sending some presents, considered by chinese dynasty as a sign of submission)

 Tibet(tufan on your map) has never been crontrolled by yuan administration, actually tibetan and mongols did have the same religion, but the dalai lama was tibetan and so was considered by yuan as the head of the religion. That why no expedition was ever send against qiang nation.

Huigu, xixia and nuzhen were only tributary states, they were independant states.

 

 Your map is uncorrect because it don't show the differences i just mentionned

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