Greatest modern army?

Originally posted by Death Use your script and language retard............unlike you i  read books and have read far more then you .Im sure of that. This sick kid could be your dad, but if you were my son i would send you back to Russia................share the fate of your nation you imbecil.....its easy to live in Canada.................Im thinking that maybe you got deported cause your dumb,or crazy. See here My Romanian friend,.....first of all i would take the Dacia,its a cool car i wont mind,seckond, yeah listten to this guy,you might learn something...............................you are in Romania right,..................now try and remember how we all lived in this part of Europe(east) and tell me you beleve this guy, this pathetic excuse of a spinal coard that more or less was too weak to make it here where there is a strong competition to even live.........................his belly is full and you are hungry,do you beleve him? Germany had a most powerful modern army,end of discusion!   US is the only superpower, it could wipe out any single country in the World now!

Originally posted by Death Use your script and language retard............unlike you i� read books and have read far more then you .Im sure of that.This sick kid could be your dad, but if you were my son i would send you back to Russia................share the fate of your nation you imbecil.....its easy to live in Canada.................Im thinking that maybe you got deported cause your dumb,or crazy.See here My Romanian friend,.....first of all i would take the Dacia,its a cool car i wont mind,seckond, yeah listten to this guy,you might learn something...............................you are in Romania right,..................now try and remember how we all lived in this part of Europe(east) and tell me you beleve this guy, this pathetic excuse of a spinal coard that more or less was too weak to make it here where there is a strong competition to even live.........................his belly is full and you are hungry,do you beleve him?Germany had a most powerful modern army,end of discusion!�US is the only superpower, it could wipe out any single country in the World now!

there we go, why US doesnt wipe out Iran, lol, because it can't.

There was no army in history more powerful than the RED ARMY.

Ok, Death, keep going, keep swearing, just go ahead, I am going to just read your random post, I don't even want to argue with you, it is impossible, you believe what you want to believe.
    

Guys, just leav him alone, it is a sick kid, maybne 15 years old, who can say all these things on the internet, never actualy loooking in to people's faces.

He doesn't use force either, cause he doesn't have any, lol.


Poshel ti v pizdu, psihopat ebaniy, po ebalu poluchish u menia.

LOL, I haven't been swearing for a long time in russian, lol, feels good.

Just ignore him, he is known for random posts.

I have been in Russia a year and a half ago, and I am gonna go there this summer, to Moscow, so....

LOL, good answer Cezar,      

Edited by Russian - 09-Jun-2006 at 07:35

Calm down people.  Lets try to keep on topic.

Originally posted by Death Hey,quit blabering.Are you near Russia now? We are here,....hows it going in Canada?lol  All the weak or very inteligent left Europe i see,......and i also see that you aint no genius. On one side there is you,and on the other the 99% of people with a diferent opinion.........who is right? You havent seen a real Russian in a long time i think.So go work out and spend some Canadian dolars,buy something nice to wear,read a good book from time to time.............................and since your so far away from here I,a mear 80 kg mongol looking son of a b,am forbiding you to speak in our name....................................Russia is more mine then yours. Are you Boris -the- bullet- dodger?Realy? Face the facts-i got more guns then you. One thing-how can you be such a hypocrit ман, Руссиа њилл невер бе уоир мотхерланд агаин анд уоз гот гутс то талк.Пусси.

Originally posted by Death Originally posted by Russian      Hi, welcome to forums. I disagree, Germany was stronger than USSR economically and USSR won the war, and USSR http://www.allempires.com/would easily win the war with US and Britain on continent after WW2, however, having weaker economy. What if the US had droped a few A bombs on Russia then?Would you still have won?Russian get it through your thick skull- Russia didnt win over Germany,the whole World had to unite to do that.Russia played a big role,about 30-40 % and you should be proud of that.Dont make me come there with my Russian friend,140kg, and beat you up,and you know i have this friend for real,HA HA HA.

LOL, about 30-40%, I have different humbers, 75-80%, dude, USSR won the war, allies TOGETHER destroyed 20-25% of living forces of the enemy, so, how come USSR gets only 30-40%?

Also, it wasn;t Germany, it was half a Europe, against USSR alone from 1941, not just Germany, Germany wouldn't match USSR alone, they needed production capabilities, people (a lot of people were not german in the Reich army, but Romanians, french, hungarians, and a lot more).

Strange, if the whole world united against Axis, and USSR destroyed 75-80% of enemy forces, and the whole world destroyed only 20-25%, then USSR was stronger than the whole world?
    

Also, USA didn't have enough bombs to win over USSR, they would drop them, then USSR would go slaughter europe, that simple, Trueman wanted to do that, but once told that USA will not be able to destroy like half of USSR army, he calmed down. Yes, should US attack USSR with nuclear bombs, first, there were no ICBMs, so, the only way to deliver was bomber, and bomber can be hit down, intercepted and so on, and second, USSR would still defeat USA on continent.
    

I have a friend, CANADIAN NATIONAL CHAMPION for bench press, at SHW, 170 kg, I am not kidding, really, Clint Harwood, lives in Toronto, very close to my place, we work out together, I highly doubt you have anyone to put up against this monster dude, he benches 760 pounds, do you want photo? Seriously. Google him.

And I guess your friend is fat 140 kg, or not? and I can bet you I am stronger pound for pound, I am a weightlifter.

And most important thing, size doesn't matter that much.

Ok, enough, lol.
    
    
    

Edited by Russian - 08-Jun-2006 at 11:48

'Russian'  I completely agree with you that US ground forces will get completely destroyed if it ever invaded Russia.  Luckily,  American leaders are not dumb enough to think that this is a viable option.  But Russia has no capabilities to mount a major conventional offensive outside of its borders.  Active troops numbers are very close indeed,  but the US undoubtably has better facilities, training and equipment.  Even Sergei Ivonav admitted that the salaries and pensions of the average Russian soldier makes living conditions hard. 

     The US military is the most capable and powerful in the world.  No other nation in the world puts as much money into their armed forces.  As a result,  the US military is the most modernized in the world.  No nation can can match US naval or air power,  and American ground forces are certainly more than capable.  While Russia has a much greater number of tanks at their disposal,  many of them are quickly becoming outdated.  Also the number of active troops US armed forces are second only to China,  as of 2003/2004.  While US equipment is certainly not the best,  the quantity of modern equipment is unparralelled.  One thing that the US military is not capable of is an offensive against a major military power like Russia or China.  But then again,  no two nations on earth could successfully wage a conventional war against Russia on Russian territory.

Originally posted by xristar The US army is very mobile, but in what sense? The US claim they can strike everywhere on the planet after a few days since the order is given. Ok, fine, they are able to� take over Somalia� immediately. But can they take out a serious country? The billions they spend, they spend them on equipment that doesn't affect the performance of the army. They have like 10 or more aircraft carriers. Big deal! Carriers can carry only few airplanes. The US base on allies to make their air strikes. So, if they are left with no allies their air superiority goes away, unless of course we are talking of a war with Mexico or Canada. Their land army is nothing special. They have good equipment, but it's designed to be mobile, not powerful. When they use the Strykers, which are like toys, no match for true IFVs, and they replace the Abrams as too heavy, forgetting that the tank is the essence of a land army, what can you expect to do in a real war? Always talking conventional (no nuclear strikes), the US army with its 40 light brigades, spread around the world, is no match for eg the russian army. All is their airforce, without which they have no chance.

    

THANK YOU. That's what I am saying to everytone here, that's right, mobile army made to be mobile, not powerful, I doubt that US wil take out other powerful regular army too, they make contribution to mobility, and ability to fight small armies of weak countries, like Iraq, who have old equipment, do ou know what they tested their newest laser on, laser that is supposed to hit missiles? Katusha MRL, WW2 times MRL, and they hit 2 out of 6 missiles so far, all other missiles would theoretically destroy the laser station itself, and next volley will be free from any laser, and that's WW2 weapon. They are not planning to go to war with another industrialized country, they don't have enough firepower to do that.

Also, terribly agree with xristar, US without allies will lose a lot.

Also, US is now using the very methods that were used by USSR and made it dissolute, brute use of force, losing their allies, losing influence. Russia, however, does the opposite, it takes the role that US played, making allies, not using force and peacekeeping.


Karlos:

If Hitler would have invaded Soviet Union before Europe, he would have lost even worse, why? Study history, military history. Most German tanks were made in Zhechoslovakia and other european countries. After invading european countries, germany got some more soldiers in to their army, should ONLY german army invade USSR, it would have lost even quicker and with less casualties to USSR. Third Reich's power was exactly this, the fact that it controlled almost half a europe, if not actual half, and gained power because of that and THEN, after getting stronger invaded USSR.

Spreading troops thin is not correct, whereever germans attacked, they would most of the time make sure they are outnumbering the enemy, a lot of Soviet troops were in Far East in the beginning of the war, so it was also spread out too thin.


You are right that Russia can not invade US, and there are good things in that too.

USSR was dissoluted not because it couldn't feed it's people or support it's army, but because there were people like Gorbachev, who were almost BOUGHT by USA, it is he who basically broke everything apart, most republics voted to stay as a part of USSR.

The US army is very mobile, but in what sense? The US claim they can strike everywhere on the planet after a few days since the order is given. Ok, fine, they are able to  take over Somalia  immediately.
But can they take out a serious country? The billions they spend, they spend them on equipment that doesn't affect the performance of the army. They have like 10 or more aircraft carriers. Big deal! Carriers can carry only few airplanes. The US base on allies to make their air strikes. So, if they are left with no allies their air superiority goes away, unless of course we are talking of a war with Mexico or Canada. Their land army is nothing special. They have good equipment, but it's designed to be mobile, not powerful. When they use the Strykers, which are like toys, no match for true IFVs, and they replace the Abrams as too heavy, forgetting that the tank is the essence of a land army, what can you expect to do in a real war? Always talking conventional (no nuclear strikes), the US army with its 40 light brigades, spread around the world, is no match for eg the russian army. All is their airforce, without which they have no chance.