History of Genocide

Response to Phallanx!!!

No.1 - Do not capitalize your words. It is against forum policy.

No2 -  Do not address me in your profane way. -exPlease do prove you are much more than the idiot that we believe.)

The only reason that I am responding to you is due to upholding a promise I made from my previous post.

Here is my point for the last time. You make blanket statements with very little validity to them or none at all. This post is just one example where I will prove such an instance. You sensationalize your arguements with capital lettering. And you resort to shallow bullying tactics when I or anyone else catches you in a lie or a slander that is weak at best.

Phallanx:  "If you have Mango's bio of Ataturk please do present the page that the according to you "bias" review quotes."

First of all I want to congradulate you for explaining your bargaining position. -ex: (A review from amazon is more than enough for me, since I won't waste my money on such crap). After all this time you finally acknowledge that a claim you so proudly presented was only a reviewers blog from amazon.com. Since you did not read the book, you resorted to cheap tactics.

Now here is the page from Mango that contains information about the slander you relied on, since it is the only page in the book that is remotely close to what you originally claimed. Out of 666 pages from the book only the bottom of page 308 and the top of 309 contain 'the' dubious material.

Quote from Mango - "Lloyd George consoled himself with scandal-mongering. Bekir Sami, he told King George V, was 'a ruffian' who had been 'traced to a sodomy house in the East End. He was the representative of Mustafa Kemal, a man who I understand has grown tired of affairs with women, and has lately taken up unnatural sexual intercourse." -"Of Bekir Sami's sexual orientation we know nothing, but all the evidence shows that Mustafa Kemal was far from tired of affairs with women." -"Llyod George was not particular about the methods he used: the king, he knew, was easily shocked, while his own nonconformist conscience was infinitely flexible."

Mango in plain English Mango states that Lloyd George consoled himself with scandal mongering.

Perhaps Phallanx picked up a few dirty tricks or two himself!

My reason for calling you Two-faced stems from such outright blatant fabrications on your part, as well as, your ability to deny posters from using testimonies of thier own. Testimonial presentations you accept is when it only comes from you or the position you hold.

You may see my posts as insults. Especially when I refute the nonsense that you present. I am surprised that you got away with your cheap tactics for this long.

Why dont you try it boy? Lots of your ancestors tried it once but their missions have failed, since they all had their hads cut, sleeping in peace. Maybe you can be their successor corpse, who knows? 

So you will kill Turkish civilians, women and children by putting all of them in a mosque and burning the mosque like your ancestors did? And for the same reason with your ancestors, inferiority complex? Com'on, try it. I bet even a couple of women in �zmir can deal with you having an AK-47, without the reinforcement of 70 million other Turks ... 

Last thing i heard , as i remember , was it 98 ?? or 99 ?? was the scream of the "running bride" as she plunged into the blue water of Aegean..... No problem though .... someone can get easily used to it...no big deal...like slingering pigeons...

Isk.

I see that the "memetia" responded according to their national values and principles of chopping heads (see oguzoglu) and drinking blood (akinci). Anyway, the fact that you misunderstood my words because of bad knowledge of English (since I said IF I ever have, not that I would like to) or misinterpreted them on purpose so that they fit your counter arguments, does not interest me much.

It is obvious that Greeks and Turks will never live in harmony, due to the disputes between their states. I didn't characterize Turkish people in general by telling the truth. And if lack of belief in political correctness from my part is evident of fascism, then I admit that I am the greatest fascist in the world.

Originally posted by Oguzoglu  ...I bet even a couple of women in Smyrna can deal with you having an AK-47, without the reinforcement of 70 million other Turks ...

Peace out man, you are watching too many Hollywood type movies (women handling rifles etc).

Seko , my main "man"...

It is strange from ur part to try and talk about FACTS , since u are the one who still owe me answers deriving from questions about FACTS.... Should i remind u some ??? ( from the many that u conveniently forgot to answer , or changed the subject )

1) Is there any UN resolution in favor of Turkey ( conserning the invastion of Cyprus ) since 1974 ??? An why not ???

2) Is there any UN Human Rights report in favor of Turkey about Cyprus ??

3) Is there ANY Human Rights report CONDEMNING the Cypriots of Greek origin for crimes against the Cypriots of Turkish origin , like the ones ur goverment used as an excuse for the interference , which became invasion ???

It is still strange from ur part to talk about FACTS....Keep to the propaganda side...in there u do ok..

Isk.

It was my post!!!

Those pictures were the facts and facts are hard to accept.

You can delete the pictures and edit it if you think that it is not good to show massacred Turkish civilians but you have deleted the all post.......

Really how many can actually read the Ottoman script here?(Can you read it phallanx?)

I know that you know it. I said it for other forumers to be better informed about the issue, otherwise they would not understand what was going on in the forum.

I have posted a few pictures about massacred Turkish civilians, mass graves etc.

I have also given a list of last massacred Turkish civilian list in two Turkish villages which was called Murat Aga and Sandallar on 15th of August 1974, 5 days before Turkish army's intervention to Cyprus.

It was for you to better understand why Turkey had intervened to Cyprus. If everything was just the contrary and Turks were killing Greek civilians like this by state supported bandits; I wonder how "civilized word and UN" reacted. I wonder what could happen if there would be coup d'etat in Cyprus to annex the island with Turkey by the help of Turkish government ruled by colonels?

Here you are last Turks with their ages who lost their lives in Cyprus on 15th August 1974.......

 People should get informed what happened in Cyprus.

http://www.bilimarastirmavakfi.org/kibris/Kibris03.html

http://www.kibris.gen.tr/english/massacres/theperiod_muratag a.html

So ISK, your feeling left out and now you want to get in on some of the action. I will oblige you your desire.

As you know we discussed our differences many times over before. For your final reminder, my facts revolve around the pre-1974 Cyprus War. You even tried to state how one of the resolutions is not against your people when it in fact was. Your rantings about post 1974 resolutions are all after the war. Thus do not cover reason for the war. Only complaints to the UN about lost Greek Cypriot territory and homes, and paybacks, etc.

Now if you want facts than I ask you which ones? Turkish, Greek, UN or whatever. But if you want truth then we all know the problems of the area have been discussed before and all sides have there issues. All sides have also blamed the other. That is both factual and true. Yet I get the feeling that you are itching to have a go at this. So bring it on.