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Topic: AEDip04: Versailles Diplomacy Posted: 08-Jan-2006 at 04:30 |
Well, I believe Maju was thinking of the mailing of all players on the list that he usually mails us.
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Posted: 08-Jan-2006 at 04:34 |
doesnt everybody in this game follow this thread?
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Posted: 08-Jan-2006 at 05:28 |
Originally posted by TheDiplomat
doesnt everybody in this game follow this thread? |
Not necessarily. It's a billboard: just that. All oficial stuff goes
via email. Also you haven't made any sort of clear and detailed
request. Something like:
Dear GM:
Could we postpone the deadline for (season) until (day)? The reason is that this and that...
I just know that it seems that Turkey has a national holiday some day
next week but I have no idea on how this may affect the developement of
the game and I'm thinking that we may well be in the middle of that
holiday and still not knowing when exactly happens what.
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Posted: 08-Jan-2006 at 07:39 |
It is no doubt that evryone saw the request of both Kapikulu and me.
On Tuesday a ''religious ''holiday is starting which will last till the beginning of the following week...
so I repeat the request of extention for 1 week here...I will not make a so-called ''official'' request again.It is up to you..You may even ignore.But what can I do ?
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Posted: 08-Jan-2006 at 12:35 |
Is the Turksih proudness so unbindable? Can they not bow to the higher lords?
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Posted: 08-Jan-2006 at 13:44 |
Originally posted by TheDiplomat
It is no doubt that evryone saw the request of both Kapikulu and me.
On Tuesday a ''religious ''holiday is starting which will last till the beginning of the following week...
so I repeat the request of extention for 1 week here...I will not make a so-called ''official'' request again.It is up to you..You may even ignore.But what can I do ?
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Oh come now, is it so hard to PM the GM? Yes, it was posted, and what happens when that page is covered by three other pages of talks about the game. PM the GM, it won't take more than 30 seconds to say please extend the game because there is a holiday!
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Posted: 09-Jan-2006 at 05:05 |
Originally posted by Thegeneral
Originally posted by TheDiplomat
It is no doubt that evryone saw the request of both Kapikulu and me.
On Tuesday a ''religious ''holiday is starting which will last till the beginning of the following week...
so I repeat the request of extention for 1 week here...I will not make a so-called ''official'' request again.It is up to you..You may even ignore.But what can I do ?
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Oh come now, is it so hard to PM the GM? Yes, it was posted, and what happens when that page is covered by three other pages of talks about the game. PM the GM, it won't take more than 30 seconds to say please extend the game because there is a holiday!
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He has already seen the request...so why the hell this IDEEFIXE for?(a question to u theGeneral)
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Posted: 09-Jan-2006 at 06:21 |
Because I have no idea when do you expect me to set the new deadline
to. Because I am still waiting to ajudicate this turn first (for which
I'm still missing some orders, including yours). And because you insist
in being so annoying that I'm seriously tempted of not making any
extension and NMRing you and finding a replacement.
In fact 'm so annoyed at this attitude of you that I'm tempted of quting GMing Diplomacy games in AE since now.
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Posted: 09-Jan-2006 at 06:46 |
I had already said the beginning of the the following week which means 16th January Monday...
well,if u get so annoyed about everything,(I did not show any personal disrespect,no insult)then I doubt your maturity.
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Posted: 09-Jan-2006 at 07:01 |
Guys,this is just an internet forum...Relax..
we don't have to be too ''official'' as in the real life...
I hang out forums to relax,to have fun...thats why I play these games as well...But If I am also supposed to be bureauratic,where is the point of having fun for all of us.
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Posted: 09-Jan-2006 at 07:03 |
Originally posted by TheDiplomat
I had already said the beginning of the the following week which means 16th January Monday...
well,if u get so annoyed about everything,(I did not show any personal disrespect,no insult)then I doubt your maturity.
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For Christ sakes send a stinkin PM! Is your pride so big?!
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Posted: 09-Jan-2006 at 07:04 |
Originally posted by Thegeneral
Originally posted by TheDiplomat
I had already said the beginning of the the following week which means 16th January Monday...
well,if u get so annoyed about everything,(I did not show any personal disrespect,no insult)then I doubt your maturity.
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For Christ sakes send a stinkin PM! Is your pride so big?!
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for Moses' sake what pride are u talking about ?what has pride to do with this.this is biassnes.I already made the request to be seen by everyone...
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Posted: 09-Jan-2006 at 07:18 |
Originally posted by Maju
And because you insist in being so annoying that I'm seriously tempted of not making any extension and NMRing you and finding a replacement.
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May I remind you the fact that the request made by KAPIKULU first,and secondly by me.
Same request was also made for the 1600 game,but we didn't see such tension there..plus I am not annoyed..if u read my messages,u will understand...But you always take it personal..as if I have matter with you.as if I wrote in anger.
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Posted: 09-Jan-2006 at 10:07 |
Okay, I made the request for the extension. It took me all of 20 seconds.
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Posted: 09-Jan-2006 at 12:02 |
Thanks Hugo. Terrible conversation.
I would still recommend to do like it is officially done as it is BETTER that way. If you can't send your orders on deadline AND if you then go against the GM then you just have a problem. I think that this has been a public aggression.
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Posted: 09-Jan-2006 at 16:15 |
Originally posted by hugoestr
Okay, I made the request for the extension. It took me all of 20 seconds.
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Thank you, I was about to do it myself. (but I'd prefere just to poke and Russia )
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Posted: 09-Jan-2006 at 18:26 |
London Times
The Soviet lead Swedish fleet just off the south coast of Norway has
made threats of an impending invasion of the mainland. Oslo sends an
appeal to the English government for protection. Sweden has no claims
on Norwegian soil, Norway's sovereignty will be protected. England
promisses full support in the defense of Norway. England will obtain
allies in the effort to remove the Soviet hegmony over Scandinavia.
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Posted: 10-Jan-2006 at 01:42 |
Adjudication Fall 1929:
The New York Times
Great powers of Europe struggle to consolidate their positions while
points of tension seem to change
Britain, Germany and
Russia secure positions in Northern Europe.
Italy invades Austria, neutralizing the German
Anschluss. It also incorporates Tunis to its colonial empire.
Poland invades Hungary with Yugoslavian support while
the Red Army occupies Galitzia.
Clashes between Turkey and the Moscow-Bucarest alliance
along the Black Sea coasts.
Other press:
An anoymous leaflet said:
Italy and Germany are not allies.
Retreat: Germany must retreat A Austria to Munich, Croatia
or OTB. Yet it seems that Kapikulu is not around and an
extension till the 16th has been requested.
If there was only one choice, I would use of GM's discrection and
auto-retreat it but there are several options. Therefore, I will
set a deadline for Winter (adjustments and IPs) as soon as Kapikulu
broadcasts his retreat, which must be before 23:59 GMT of Monday 16th
in any case. Probably the Winter deadline will be placed on
Wednesday 28th, so let's start thinking on how do you want to order for
that season.
The Adjudication for Fall 1929 is as follows:
Poland:
F East Baltic Sea Hold
A Lithuania Hold
A Slovakia - Hungary
Britain:
F London - English Channel
F North Sea - Oslo
A Yorkshire Hold
France:
F Brest - Picardy
A Burgundy - Marseilles
A Switzerland Supports A Burgundy - Marseilles
Germany:
A Austria Supports A Trieste - Switzerland (*Dislodged*)
A Hamburg - Holland
F Heligoland Bight - Denmark
Italy:
A Piedmont Supports A Trieste - Austria
A Trieste - Austria
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Tunis
USSR:
F Gulf of Bothnia Hold
A Kiev - Galicia
A Leningrad - Finland
F Sevastopol - Black Sea (*Bounce*)
Turkey:
F Ankara - Black Sea (*Bounce*)
A Bulgaria - Bucharest (*Bounce*)
A Kurdistan - Syria
Czechoslovakia:
A Silesia - Prague
Egypt:
F Eastern Mediterranean Sea - Ionian Sea
Greece:
A Athens Holds
Rumania:
A Moldavia - Bucharest (*Bounce*)
Spain:
F Catalonia - Madrid
Sweden:
F Skagerrak - Sweden
Yugoslavia:
A Beograd Supports A Slovakia - Hungary
(As always, please check for any possible errors)
The new center count (affecting builds and IPs and indiferent to the
German retreat) is:
Ownership:
Poland: Danzig, Hungary, Krakow, Lithuania, Warsaw.
Britain: Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Oslo.
France: Brest, Marseilles, Paris, Switzerland.
Germany: Berlin, Denmark, Hamburg, Holland, Munich.
Italy: Austria, Naples, Rome, Trieste, Tunis.
USSR: Finland, Kiev, Leningrad, Moscow, Sevastopol.
Turkey: Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Smyrna, Syria.
Czechoslovakia: Prague.
Egypt: Egypt.
Greece: Athens.
Rumania: Bucharest.
Spain: Madrid.
Sweden: Sweden.
Yugoslavia: Beograd.
Unowned: Belgium, Ireland, Portugal.
Adjustments:
Poland: Supp 5 Unit 3 Build 2
Britain: Supp 4 Unit 3 Build 1
France: Supp 4 Unit 3 Build 1
Germany: Supp 5 Unit 3 Build 2
Italy: Supp 5 Unit 3 Build 2
USSR: Supp 5 Unit 4 Build 1
Turkey: Supp 5 Unit 3 Build 2
Czechoslovakia: Supp 1 Unit 1 Build 0
Egypt: Supp 1 Unit 1 Build 0
Greece: Supp 1 Unit 1 Build 0
Rumania: Supp 1 Unit 1 Build 0
Spain: Supp 1 Unit 1 Build 0
Sweden: Supp 1 Unit 1 Build 0
Yugoslavia: Supp 1 Unit 1 Build 0
Remember that the number of your IPs is equal to that of Supply
center owned.
Operational map:
Current map (retreat
pending but centers already adjusted):
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Posted: 10-Jan-2006 at 12:04 |
I as Jzef Pisudski, marszaek Polski, Naczelnik Pastwa, minister obrony, Generalny Inspektor Si Zbrojnych rename the city of Danzig as Gdanks and ask all others to forwardly call the province Vilnius instead of Lithuania. I thank every single person.
Now, where shall I built stuff? Dmaned, you can't build air divisions? I was hoping already. And I can't found new cities?
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Posted: 12-Jan-2006 at 02:47 |
GM Directive:
With the additional rules (IPs) of
this variant and with people sending orders before the previous
deadline has been exausted I am having problems to keep track
adequately and I fear I will commit an unwilling error unless I count
with your cooperation: I need the players to be more formal when
sending orders. Particularly I need you to do the following:
- Do not send orders before the
proper season has started, that is before the previous adjudication has
been done. So don't send winter orders before the Fall retreats are in,
unless there's a special reason for that (in which case you should
explain).
- Send ALWAYS full sets of
orders. Please, do not send one set and then small modifications to
this or that movement unless you want me to end wearing a straight
jacket or to adjudicate only on your last partial set whichever. As I
don't want to end in a mental hospital, from now on I will require
all sets to be complete: each new set totally overrides the previous
ones. If there are orders lacking, sorry: your fault (I will still
try to tell you that you have comitted an error but it's your
responsability anyhow).
- Try not to send orders as
reply mails but as brand new mails with a header like the following:
"AEDip04: <country> orders <season - year>". I will accept
other sets but I must ask you to do this way for the sake of my mental
health and adjudication accuracy. If you send several sets in a short
time, specify which order they have, so I don't have to check the time
they have been sent in the mail properties.
- All orders should be sent by
email. I can't grant that I will check the forum before I adjudicate
and PMed orders are plainly impossible to organize.
- Extensions will be granted on
request (unless someone is abusing of that, what I dont think will be
the case) but the request should be made like any other oficial game
correspondence: by email. It should also specify which date would be
good to place the new deadline at, though GM discrection always has the
last word.
- To prevent avoidable
distractions like this one, with an extension in a retreat subturn, I
would ask you to send conditional retreats when you think that you may
not be around near the adjudication date. Conditional retreats can be
sent with the regular orders or (better) in a separate mail with the
appropiate header.
I'm sure that all you will try to
comply and make the GMing activity more easy to carry. Thanks,
GM.
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