Arizona: Home of GOP policy and racism

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Posted: 04-May-2010 at 14:46

It seems my friend, you have this entire section to yourself!

That is, unless it is closed!

Regards,

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Posted: 04-May-2010 at 14:32

TGS,

Our conversations in this particular thread have become pointless. I was hoping for something more.

Lets just say that ..... I was so overwhelmed by your statements that I am speechless

Edited by Cryptic - 04-May-2010 at 16:12

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Posted: 04-May-2010 at 13:49

TGS please stop throwing the race card! It seems you are very obsessed with it and anything white conservatives do is racist such as the Tea party. Do you know what La Raza stands for? The media seems to have ignored the violence caused by rock throwing illegals in Phoenix. I know this group only represents a small % and most illegals would avoid this violence.

If you watch the video Arpaio and Montgomery both deny any connections with these neo Nutzies. How do we really know they are Nazi but maybe they are Neo-commies trying to make Arpaio look bad. I will look more into this to see if these men supports the Nazi movement or if is false. I hate NAZI’s so if this is so then of course I will not vote for such men.

I support the Arizona law which mirrors Federal law but the latter is not being enforced because of special interests such as Agri Business. My sister in law is Mexican American and she supports it and my girl friend is half Mexican and she does, I love Mexicans. They both have degrees and are very educated so are they racists in your opinion? The President of the Minute Men is Mexican American and the County commissioner of Canyon County in Idaho is 100% Mexican American and he supports such laws. They are American first and foremost so please stop with the race baiting. I will consult with Red Clay about this!

I have spent time in Mexico to help build shelter, homes, provide food; clothing, toys and other support- have you?????

I hope to go down sometime soon to visit orphanages and help in other ways, maybe this summer. I don't care where people come from as long as they are here legally!!!!!!

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Posted: 04-May-2010 at 12:33

Dear TGS, I just wanted you to know how I really feel about you!

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Seriously! You have responded very well in defending your position, and mostly you did it with grace!

So, take the above anyway you want, but all Conservatives can call you a friend, because we will defend your right to defend your position to the death!

I have enjoyed the reparte"!

Regards as always!

PS, I was going to send you "Short People" but I have no idea just how tall you are!

Oh! The same to you also cryptic and eagle cap, etc.! Except for the "Short People" part! Laugh!

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Edited by opuslola - 04-May-2010 at 12:40

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Posted: 03-May-2010 at 22:18

Originally posted by Cryptic

Not different at all. You need to look at core concepts more.

There are so many flaws in this post, I'll go through them one by one:

Originally posted by Cryptic

The 1980s and 2008 are very similar.

Not at all.

Originally posted by Cryptic

For example:

-One party representing a socio economic political world view wins big due to a rival's incompetence and drift to the extremes

Your first flaw is assuming that the Democrats have a different socio economic political world, as in extremely different. This is not true. Its conservative propaganda, they've called the Democrats communist so much that they actually believe they are...

Originally posted by Cryptic

-They become "dizzy with success"

Nobody is dizzy with success, as a matter of fact, Obama has fallen behind in many of the things he promised to do because the Republican Party is blocking everything it can and slowing down the process.

This is a good thing, as it makes the Republicans look bad and makes the Democrats look good and actually prevents them from getting "dizzy with success" by making them work harder.

Originally posted by Cryptic

-They cant conceive that they will make mistakes or face a competent opponent

There is no competent opponent, and who says they cant conceive that they will make mistakes? You?

Originally posted by Cryptic

-Some members even start to believe ther own propaganda about their inherent supereority

What propaganda about inherent superiority are you talking about? This is flawed in that you are assuming that "superiority" has to do with wanting to help other human beings.

My suggestion is that you stop making assumptions and actually try to base your argument on solid facts.

Originally posted by Cryptic

Yes, I have read your posted statistics. I can accept the temporary reality of the statistics while also realizing that future social trends are very hard to predict, even for high IQ atheists.

Again, the flaw in your logic is that you are assuming these statistics just came out of the blue. The statistics today are the way they are because they've been heading that way for 20 years now.

Asians and Hispanics have been flocking to the Democratic Party in large numbers since the 80's, the statistics show this. As for other minority groups, they've consistently voted Democrat.

Do not make the mistaken assumption that these statistics are just a one time thing, these statistics are in fact a result of a trend towards greater support for the Democrat Party and a loss of voter base from the Republican Party. This trend is continuing, especially amongst minority groups.

Look at the demographics of the Tea Party movement for example, almost completely white and Republican. Why do you think that is? Its because minorities are finding it harder and harder to identify themselves with the Republican Party's platform.

Edited by TheGreatSimba - 03-May-2010 at 22:19

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Posted: 03-May-2010 at 19:57

TGS wrote a while ago;

"The 80's was a different era. Many Hispanics and Asians voted Republican because of their anti-communist sentiments. This is no longer the case as communism has collapsed for the most part almost everywhere. In today's world, reality, the Democratic Party represents the majority of Americans and their numbers continue to grow while the Republican Party is refusing to adapt to reality."

And, unfortunately TGS, it seems the majority of those deep within the Obama administration are at heart "communists!"

So maybe America of the 1980's might well become motivated again?

I think the old TV episode was entitled "The Enemy Within?" (Star Trek)

Regards,

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Posted: 03-May-2010 at 19:53

Originally posted by TheGreatSimba

The 80's was a different era....

Not different at all. You need to look at core concepts more. The 1980s and 2008 are very similar. For example:

-One party representing a socio economic political world view wins big due to a rival's incompetence and drift to the extremes

-They become "dizzy with success"

-They cant conceive that they will make mistakes or face a competent opponent

-Some members even start to believe ther own propaganda about their inherent supereority

Originally posted by TheGreatSimba

I posted the statistics, you take it however you want, but the truth is the truth and the facts are the facts, I know this logic may seem confusing to you.

Yes, I have read your posted statistics. I can accept the temporary reality of the statistics while also realizing that future social trends are very hard to predict, even for high IQ atheists.

Edited by Cryptic - 03-May-2010 at 20:16

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Posted: 03-May-2010 at 16:06

A racist is running for the Governorship of Arizona Confused

(video of him posing and talking with neo-Nazi's and confederate flag waving racists). The crazy thing that he is the most popular Republican in the state according to polling.

http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/next-arizona-how-about-governor-joe

Also, it turns out another Arizona Republican leader has interests with racist groups, he follows several of them on twitter:

http://gawker.com/5529952/arizona-republican-leader-follows-white-supremacist

I also posted another article above talking about the backgrounds of the very Republicans who voted for such a bill.

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