Mullah got on tape when having sex

Originally posted by JanusRook Can you name any other sort of organization that's been hit with so many high profile suits alleging sex abuse, some of them involving hundreds of plaintiffs? Not legal suits but in Tibetan buddhism it is noted that pedophilia was widespread. Young Tibetan boys were regularly taken from their families and brought into the monasteries to be trained as monks. Once there, they became bonded for life. Tashì-Tsering, a monk, reports that it was common practice for peasant children to be sexually mistreated in the monasteries. He himself was a victim of repeated childhood rape not long after he was taken into the monastery at age nine. Source

one monks experience quoted by a socialist that does everything to explain PRC actions in a positive way. you cant compare this with what we have seen in the west on equal terms or weight.

  Nor can we judge Lamaism in practice from afar with so much control of information (no free access) and bias from the PRC government. You don't want generalisations on the latin church yet you pull this sht out as a some sort of proof of "pedophilia was widespread" in another reilgion? certainly what would the Vatican be called if so much weight can be given on one testimony.
 

"One day Muhammad the Prophet went to visit the house of his adopted son Zaid, but Zaid was not there. Muhammad saw Zeyd's wife, Zainab, unveiled. Noticing the beauty of her body and sexuality, he was strongly attracted to her. He exclaimed, "Praised be God who changes men's hearts!". When Zaid returned to his house and saw them, Muhammad immediately said to him "I received a message from the God that it obliges you to divorce your wife for Islam". Zaid did it and Muhammad married Zainab!!"

Narrated by Yunis, narrated by Ibn Wahab, narrated by Ibn Zaid (son of Zaid) who said, "The prophet -pbuh- had married Zaid son of Haritha to his cousin Zainab daughter of Jahsh. One day the prophet -pbuh- went seeking Zaid in his house, whose door had a curtain made of hair. The wind blew the curtain and the prophet saw Zainab in her room unclothed and he admired her in his heart. When Zainab realized that the prophet desired her SHE BEGAN TO HATE ZAID. English translation of al-Tabari's Arabic

 

http://www.google.com.tr/search?hl=tr&q=%22The+prophet+-pbuh-+had+married+Zaid+son+of+Haritha+to+his+cousin+Zainab+daughter+of+Jahsh.%22&btnG=Google%27da+Ara&meta=

 

I am bored..

Edited by Mortaza - 01-Nov-2008 at 21:49

Originally posted by Leonidas one monks experience quoted by a socialist that does everything to explain PRC actions in a positive way. you cant compare this with what we have seen in the west on equal terms or weight.   Nor can we judge Lamaism in practice from afar with so much control of information (no free access) and bias from the PRC government.

I'm sorry but Michael Parenti is not a PRC spokesperson but a respected American author and political commentator, and the account from Tashì-Tsering is hardly isolated. There is an abundance of documentation predating the birth of communism in China (let alone the takeover of Tibet) detailing such practices.

ok now everbody please if you have anything to add regarding the TOPIC of this thread go ahead and post, if you want to discuss off topic stuff you are more than wellcome to start a new thread.

There are more than that number of succesful litigants in Canada alone. I think you're confusing the issue here by assuming 1 case = 1 incident.

Actually, the website led me to believe that it measured accusations, not trials. Therefore it is possible that someone listed an accusation without taking part in a civil suit, which would be counted in this report but not on a government report. Now i'll agree that 1 accusation is not 1 incident but I do not believe that it is using trials as data but individuals.

I think so, once you have a conviction and an apology. There've been hundreds of those here. Dime a dozen, you might say.

Well....yes, way to state the obvious. I asked if being accused is the same as being found guilty. Your response is finding someone guilty and/or pleading guilty is the same as being found guilty. Therefore this entire statement is without merit and is misleading because you seem to imply it is a common occurance when you give me zero data to support that view.

Yes, let's not forget in all this who the real victim is: the church.

A person can be a victim and an abuser at the same time.

For instance a priest abuses a child. (Church responsible for allowing the abuse by negligence)
A child falsifies abuse by a priest in order to get a settlement for money. (The child and his family are responsible for defrauding a non-profit organization.)

Both are real victims in my eyes. Although I'm not an idiot and I know that there is far more child abuse than fraud going on. However you would have to be an idiot to believe that no fraud has occured.

It's okay if they attempt to evade justice illegally. Transferring assets that have been ordered liquidated is extremely illegal, something more typically associated with mafia fronts. And yes, they are on the hook for it.

No, I said that as long as the movement of money was done using proper legal channels they did nothing wrong. If they illegally moved money (which I can't believe they'd do) then they are far more wrong for doing so. Again give me some proof of this rather than just hearsay so that I can give some kind of reasonable defense.

There is an abundance of documentation predating the birth of communism in China (let alone the takeover of Tibet) detailing such practices.

Thank you for defending me on this edgewaters. I also remember reading about this practice in a National Geographic (I think?) but the exact article eludes me. I'm sure with even a cursory search online one would be able to find enough data to support my statements.