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    Posted: 23-Nov-2007 at 23:34
Originally posted by Bulldog

But if all our relatives are in heaven, what happens to wifes and husbands? does love exist there according to theology?
 
Christians believe that perfect spiritual love (agape) will exist in Heaven.  Everyone will love each other in this way.  Husbands and wives will love each other as fellow believers.  Perhaps they remember the love they shared in their lives on earth.  From what I understand, there won't be sexual love (eros) in Heaven.   
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  Quote Bulldog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-Nov-2007 at 23:51

Is the Orthodox Christian view of heaven different to other denominations? do they all share the same view regarding the issue you just commented on?

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  Quote L'histoire17 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Nov-2007 at 05:13
I don't know much about Orthodox Christian views.  That would be worth some research. 
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  Quote JanusRook Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Nov-2007 at 08:02

We are all at andropause and menopause or just androgines?


No, we just don't care about sex anymore, it's no longer important. I'm sure you have moments in your life where you aren't thinking about sex. It's like that, it "slips our mind" to even think about it.


Angels seem not to be of a gender. Everybody will turn into angels?


Most certainly not, angels lack gender because they do not have physical bodies as we do. When humans die we remain as humans.


Perfected body=what?


A perfected body is a body free from the contamination of sin, sickness and decay.


But if all our relatives are in heaven, what happens to wifes and husbands? does love exist there according to theology?


Love is all that exists in heaven. There is no portion of heaven that is lacking in that emotion. However there is no sexual actions. Husbands and wives remain together because they are pleased by each others company, and having shared so much in common on earth they have a stronger bond in heaven.


Is the Orthodox Christian view of heaven different to other denominations?


Um....Akolouthos could answer that although from what he implied in his reply to my post, I'd assume that Catholics and Orthodox Christians share a common view on heaven.

Also for future reference for all when I refer to orthodox (lower case o) I'm referring to churches in a sense of being "not heterodox". Or for the most part the denominations of christianity that the vast majority of those who call themselves christian practice. So Lutherans, Anglicans, Methodists, Presbyterians, most Baptists, etc. would be considered orthodox. But groups such as Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses and Quakers would not.

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  Quote Bulldog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Nov-2007 at 22:27
What do other religions say about this?
 
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  Quote Bulldog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Dec-2007 at 01:22

A brief outline of the Islamic interpretation of heaven.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jannah

The concept of sex in heaven exists.
 
Is the reason for no marriage existing or sex in heaven that sex has been percieved as "depravity" if done for pleasure by the church?
 
What is the Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist views on heaven?
 
Another interesting point is that nearly every society on Earth has a concept of heaven.
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If done solely for the purpose of pleasure, then it is a sin. Still, pleasure is one of the wonderful things about relations between a husband and a wife. I believe it doesn't exist in Heaven ("They are neither married, nor given in marriage"; apologies if my memory played me false there) is that the entire experience transcends any corporeal definition, but I will do some research here and get back with you, Bulldog. Please pardon the delay.
 
Oh, and the essence of what Janus said is correct re. the Orthodox point of view, as far as I know. Then again, I'm hardly a theologian.
 
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  Quote Brian J Checco Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Dec-2007 at 02:45
Originally posted by Adalwolf

Well in Heaven, if it were truly heaven, there would be beer, liquor, women, feasting, boasting, singing, fighting...


...err wait, I'm thinking of Valhalla.


In heaven you sit around listening to harps and choir music all day, or so I've been told.



Doesn't Valhalla sound soooooo much better than any opera house in the sky?
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  Quote Brian J Checco Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Dec-2007 at 02:56
Originally posted by longshanks31

heaven is one of two things A) a tool invented by man to keep the witless masses happy with there earthly suffering  B) a pretty women and a good pint.
Mines the latter, luckily death isnt required.


I'm with you there, old bean. Only, my heaven's a bit classier- beautiful women, and expensive cognac. Plenty of good books too. And I get to wear a tuxedo whenever possible. Flashy cars and good conversation don't hurt either.
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  Quote JanusRook Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Dec-2007 at 04:46

Is the reason for no marriage existing or sex in heaven that sex has been percieved as "depravity" if done for pleasure by the church?


No of course not sex is a natural function of the human body and is not depraved at all. Sex is pleasurable because God wants us to have sex so that we can build families.

There is no sex in heaven for the same reason we no longer breathe or eat or sleep in heaven. These are urges that our natural bodies need to maintain and create life. In heaven God maintains your life directly so we have no desire to eat or sleep or breathe, the same applies to sex.

Could you have sex in heaven? I suppose one could the same way that a grown man could suck on a pacifier and wear diapers. However we would consider that inappropriate as we have grown out of that stage of our life. The same thing with sex in heaven, we have just grown out of the stage where we care about sex.
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