North and South Azerbaijans - reunification!!!

bravo! very well said!

and he is an iranian azeri ( i assume).

so qajar what do you have to same to him? everything he says is the truth!

so far, in all the forums i have been to, iranian afghans consider themselves iranians, iranian kurds consider themselves iranian, and iranian azeri's consider themselves iranians.

i have enteracting with all these people and this is what they tell me. one of my aunts has turkic blook in her, but she considers herself iranian (married into the family), and i myself, a persian, consider myself IRANIAN!

As I was reading (and laughing) through this topic, I must outragously protest to the Turkish Chauvinist for desecrating the great name of "Qajar". As a descendent of them, I shall totally condemn anyone taking their name and rape it using disgusting chauvinistic propagandas to suit their own world.

ps. Zagros, I dont know if Qajars were turkmen, but I believe they were Iranians who spoke turkic in Azarbaijan. They certainly didnt look like Turkmens. nor do I.

here is my opinion to my Iranian friends:

Azaris are Iranian. definitly no doubt about that. Does their language make them any different from other Iranians? absolutely not, and I will strongly condemn the Turkish Chauvinist for saying other wise like he is our spokesman. SHame ON YOU.

listen my Iranian friends; Turkish Chauvinists and Ultra-nationalists like to claim anyone to be turkish if they speak a turkic language.  They claim them to be originate of Turkish Race. Which does not apply to everyone:

Like Azaris, and Arranis. including our Ghashghais. They say since they speak turkic, they must of our Turkish origin. thus they are turks by nationality. Basicallly saying they are Turkish in nationality and belong to Turkey.

The Arranis were heavily turkified by the help of Russians and Pan-turks. Before USSR annexation of Arran, Azari turkic language of Iran was not all that dominant in Arran as it is today... but enough of all the historicall stuff. let me get to the point.

Azarbaijan belongs to Iran, and if the Azerbaijani republicans to the north want them to be united with their "southern brothers". they should join Iran. If not, then they should shut the hell up or we Iranian can destroy their chauvinistic system in a matter of hours. (if you know what I mean).

listen my Iranian friends. as I have said before, Azeri "separatists" are not from Iran. maybe the head guy is, but his henchmen and terrorist supporters (like many other "separatists" across iran) are not Iranian. The claimed azari separatists supporters are from the republic to the north and neo-fascist militias of Turkey.

In Khuzestan, the british hire foreing agents and mercenaries to carry out attacks. ... like many things that will come will be from foreign mercenaries and fascist militias.

and another thing Zagros (and other Iranians). Dont you always notice these Turkish Chauvinists always say "Azeri turks". this only shows that they are trying to impose a phenomena that Azaris are all Turks or just because they speak turkish they are turkish by race or ethnicity. which are pure lies. By putting the label "turk" all the time, shows that they are desparate into spreading their propaganda and it is a clear sign, that the propaganda in which they instigate is false.

They cant say Uzbek turks, or Khazak Turks. because they are already turkic and we all know that.

and when you see how the Pan-turanists of turkey like to reinvent history. thus YOU KNOW THAT THE TURAN IS A LIE. You know that what they say are all lies. when an idealogy bases its foundations on lies and historic revisionism, it clearly shows us how weak and pathetic the idealogy really is. And I seriously pitty any one believing them.

Do you get what I am saying. It is hard for Chauvinistic individuals such as "Qajar" to agree with what we say about pan-turks. because if he rejects one thing about pan-turan ideology, he would know the rest are all bullsh*t. if he agrees that the pan-turks made up a story, say Babak khoramdin was a turk fight persians, then he HAS to reject the entire idealogy. because these chauvinists are very passionate about their idealogy. They actually believe in their propaganda and praise their "fascist" leaders. so if they find out they have been lied to, how do you expect them to react. Its always rejectiong at first. because as broken men/women in conscience they would be too lost to redefine themselves and purpose of their nationalism.

I always wanted to understand how people get so nationalistic that they turn to chauvinists. I still cannot really comprehend.

^ that is why i reported you.

why dont you discuss? you created this thread. so you are 14 years old? shouldnt you be asleep?

you dont even dispute the claims. very funny.

basically, this is what i wrote in the report:

you dont provide any evidence, and you just repeat yourself. you dont comment on the evidence provided which proves the other point of view, and instead your rely on personal attacks.

and i also wrote that you have tried to start turkish iranian flame war in this thread to divert the topic from azerbaijan.

lastly, i said that you seem to have no interest in history.

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Your are brave man!!!))

another source. ismail started in northern iran, and then gained control of the whole country and proclaimed shah of iran.

so good bye, im asking for your banning.

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Good bye my love good bye.

Don't know actually what I said wrong and more over I clarified that nothing personal in my statements, but anyway, you are old member of the forum and moderator can bann me, but before that I require an explanation.

Sorry if I harmed anyone, but as I said there is nothing personal.

     You're not arguing with facts. You're just accusing people of being chauvinists based on their cultural affiliation. You're saying childish things like "my family was ruled your country more than 200 years". That counts as a chauvinistic statement, don't you think?

safavid rise to power in Iran (they over threw the old dynasty, it was a civil war over who would gain power in the power vaccum left by the timurid dynasty of iran):

wikipedia

More proof that Azeri's and Persians lived in one nation, Iran:

Qajar, no matter how hard you try, you cannot show a link that there was ever an independent azeri state to begin with.

even the safavid empire wanted to keep Iran united as my piece of evidence above indicates, and used the term Iran and Persia.

you azeri's and the rest of the turkic world is just as poor as iran is. some even poorer, like mongolia, afghanistan, turkmenistan, uzbekistan, azerbaijan, etc...

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You didn't get my point actually. When I said poor, I didn't meant your financial status)...I meant your intellectual ability))))

But we are friends, isn't it????....and especialy because my family was ruled your country more than 200 years))