Cultural Genocide in Azerbaijan

Originally posted by prsn41ife Originally posted by Luv_ya_Azerbaijan occupying 20% of Azerbaijan is very disgusting too and denying it even worse! iran isnt occuping anything  proove that we are occuping azerbaijan. and what does that have to do with cultural genocide?

 not Iran you silly, Armenia, I'm talking about Nagorno karabakh + those other occupied zones

Originally posted by Luv_ya_Azerbaijan  not Iran you silly, Armenia, I'm talking about Nagorno karabakh + those other occupied zones

     Karabakh was an autonomous republic under Soviet rule, and after Soviet collapse, they voted to be part of Armenia. Azerbaijan illegally occupied the province with its military, and Armenians kicked them out. The only reason Armenians are holding part of Azerbaijan as a buffer zone is because if they don't, they will be landlocked within Azeri borders, and they will not be able to trade with anyone.

     So you're telling me that Azerbaijan was right by illegally occupying Karabakh? I would like to hear your opinion on this.

i think karabag means =land of vineyard or similar thing

Originally posted by merced12 i think karabag means =land of vineyard or similar thing

kara=black  bag(bakh=the way you pronounce it in Russian)=garden, and Nagorno(russian)=mountanious

Mountanious blackgarden

and Artsakh is the Caucasian Albanian(our ancestors) name for Karabakh,

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dont you mean Karabakh Armenian military forces? you and some people here cant get over the fact that it was Nagorno-Karabakh, yes the same 150 thousand people republic that defeated you, not Armenia.

Originally posted by Luv_ya_Azerbaijan  that was quite funny Armeniansurvival, no country in this world is recognizing your version of  Karabakh. It is well known that Nagorno-Karabakh  is recognized internationally as part of the Azerbaijan Republic, although since 1988 NK has been illegally occupied by Armenian military forces who are now seeking ways to legitimize their actions, but the world isn't buying that bull, thank God.

     Northern Cyprus isn't recognized internationally, either, and thats not stopping Turkey, is it?

     I already said, Karabakh was an autonomous enclave within the Soviet Union, and it was LEGAL for them to vote to break away from Azerbaijan, and they did. It is Azerbaijan which broke international law by sending in its military to occupy the region AFTER the province decided it wanted to annex itself to Armenia. If you disagree, you can explain your version of events, instead of putting down my argument with no facts of your own.

Originally posted by merced12 i think karabag means =land of vineyard or similar thing

     The etymology of the term is more complicated than I thought. Here's what Wikipedia says:

In Armenian it is called Լեռնային Ղարաբաղ, (translit. Lernayin Gharabagh). In Azerbaijani, Dağlıq Qarabağ or Yuxarı Qarabağ, literally "mountainous black garden" or "upper black garden". In Russian: Нагорный Карабах, translit. Nagornyy Karabakh). It is often referred to by Armenians as Artsakh (Armenian: Արցախ). In Persian: قره باغ . The word "Karabakh" originated from Turkic "kara" (meaning "black") and Persian "bagh (باغ" (meaning "garden"), literally meaning "black garden." ^[3] The name first appears in Georgian and Persian sources in 13 - 14th centuries ^[4]. The related term Karabagh [k�rəba:] is described by the Oxford English Dictionary as being used to denote a kind of patterned rug originally produced in the area.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagorno-Karabakh

So the term "Karabagh" is half Turkish and half Persian in origin, according to this article.

Originally posted by Luv_ya_Azerbaijan and Artsakh is the Caucasian Albanian(our ancestors) name for Karabakh

     It would be really interesting if you actually had proof of that they were your ancestors...not to mention the fact that it would go against any sober history of the region.


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Originally posted by Luv_ya_Azerbaijan  rightttt, so you're saying Armenia didn't fought with Azerbaijan??

     The Republic of Armenia was not involved in the conflict. Armenians in Karabakh fought Azerbaijan in order to stop their illegal occupation of the province.

Originally posted by Luv_ya_Azerbaijan and besides that still doesn't change the fact of Armenia occupying 20% of Azerbaijan. face it, it can't be that hard

     The total of occupied land, including Karabagh (which legally was never part of an independent Azerbaijan), is only about 15%. And I already said, Armenians holding the buffer zone so they won't be land-locked within their enemies' borders.


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Northern Cyprus isn't recognized internationally, either, and thats not stopping Turkey, is it?      I already said, Karabakh was an autonomous enclave within the Soviet Union, and it was LEGAL for them to vote to break away from Azerbaijan, and they did. It is Azerbaijan which broke international law by sending in its military to occupy the region AFTER the province decided it wanted to annex itself to Armenia. If you disagree, you can explain your version of events, instead of putting down my argument with no facts of your own.

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yes of course I can prove: read this from UNITED NATIONS

16. As a result of more than seven years of ongoing war, approximately 20 per cent of the entire territory of Azerbaijan, comprising Nagorny Karabakh and an area four times bigger than that region, has been occupied and held by the Armenian armed forces

20. Since the start of the aggression, more than 900 settlements have been looted and destroyed. Armenian aggression against Azerbaijan and the destruction of settlements goes hand in hand with barbaric looting and removal of property and material assets from occupied Azerbaijani areas to Armenia. The goods and material assets that are taken away are sold on to third countries and the proceeds are used to continue funding the war

here you go: http://www.unhchr.ch/tbs/doc.nsf/0/6deac92f7a29f4ed802565020 05f498e?OpenDocument

 

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hahaha, lol,

thats not "what the UN has said about it" its "Initial Reports of State Parties: Azerbaijan, 16/09/1996"



1. The present report is the first report of the Government of Azerbaijan, presented in accordance with article 18, paragraph 1 of the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women of 18 December 1979, to which Azerbaijan acceded on 10 July 1995. It deals with the legislative, judicial, administrative and other action undertaken by the Republic of Azerbaijan in order to comply with the provisions of the Convention.

nice try though, very nice

Originally posted by mamikon hahaha, lol, thats not "what the UN has said about it" its "Initial Reports of State Parties: Azerbaijan, 16/09/1996" I. INTRODUCTION 1. The present report is the first report of the Government of Azerbaijan, presented in accordance with article 18, paragraph 1 of the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women of 18 December 1979, to which Azerbaijan acceded on 10 July 1995. It deals with the legislative, judicial, administrative and other action undertaken by the Republic of Azerbaijan in order to comply with the provisions of the Convention. nice try though, very nice

yea i realised that also. its an azerbaijani report submitted to the UN, not by the UN.

lol, its just the Azeri point of view, nothing else, this isnt evidence.