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Ionian
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Topic: Turkey member of E.U Posted: 01-Jun-2005 at 10:58 |
I VOTE YES
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aknc
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Posted: 01-Jun-2005 at 11:00 |
well,someone had to open a topic about it,glad it was a neutral person
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"I am the scourage of god appointed to chastise you,since no one knows the remedy for your iniquity exept me.You are wicked,but I am more wicked than you,so be silent!"
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Yiannis
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Posted: 01-Jun-2005 at 11:07 |
Yes from me as well. A Turkish entrance in the EU will greatly benefit Greek commerce in the area.
Not to mention that Turkey will be forced to close all pending bilateral issues before that happens
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The basis of a democratic state is liberty. Aristotle, Politics
Those that can give up essential liberty to obtain a temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin
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Posted: 01-Jun-2005 at 11:08 |
Not yet.
I don't have fundamental objections against Turkey in the EU, but some
problems (human rights, Cyprus, Armenian genocide) need to be solved
first.
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aknc
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Posted: 01-Jun-2005 at 11:22 |
belive me mixcoatl,we will definatlu solve human rights,and cyprus(look at Ionian,me and alparslan)but the armenian genocide will never be solved,turkey will never accept it
On the other hand,we CAN open the border and lift the ambargo if armenia recognises lausanne treaty,then maybe ignoring the "genocide" we'll be set
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"I am the scourage of god appointed to chastise you,since no one knows the remedy for your iniquity exept me.You are wicked,but I am more wicked than you,so be silent!"
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Cywr
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Posted: 01-Jun-2005 at 11:58 |
Another yes here.
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Arrrgh!!"
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Posted: 01-Jun-2005 at 11:58 |
No, Turkey shouldnt be in EU, it is better for both us and Europeans...
Dont get me wrong, I am not just considering the social and cultural background of this issue, but mostly our benefits and European benefits. To me, it is EU who needs us much more than we will need it in future. And I dont think EU will last forever, because it's weakness of unification can be realized even in the issue of Iraq and NATO. France and Germany are way improved and powerful countries than the American allies of England and Spain, and there is no real union btw those countries...
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baracuda
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Posted: 01-Jun-2005 at 12:00 |
I vote a definate NOto Turkey being in the EU, it will cause too much of a risk to Turkey from EU's side.
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Yiannis
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Posted: 01-Jun-2005 at 12:08 |
Originally posted by Oguzoglu
. France and Germany are way improved and powerful countries than the American allies of England and Spain, |
Spain is not a US ally any more. Zapatero won, remember?
In anycase, all countries are allies to the US when they fight for common good. But potentially we're all enemies when they fight for the selfish interests of the Military/Industrial regime and lie to their allies in the most shameless way.
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The basis of a democratic state is liberty. Aristotle, Politics
Those that can give up essential liberty to obtain a temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin
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Spartakus
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Posted: 01-Jun-2005 at 12:12 |
If Turkey's entrance in EU means that it's ideology will change,then yes.If not,then they should stay were they are.
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aknc
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Posted: 01-Jun-2005 at 12:24 |
what ideology
and to those no saying turksih members
"KINIYORUM"
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"I am the scourage of god appointed to chastise you,since no one knows the remedy for your iniquity exept me.You are wicked,but I am more wicked than you,so be silent!"
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Spartakus
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Posted: 01-Jun-2005 at 12:26 |
The spearhead of Turkish foreign policy are the F-16s.
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"There are worse crimes than burning books. One of them is not reading them. "
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aknc
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Posted: 01-Jun-2005 at 12:27 |
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Posted: 01-Jun-2005 at 12:36 |
Com'on, you shouldnt "knamak" us, we just know things that arent clearly realized by most of our voters, this is why we think that way. And as a strategist, I think baracuda is much more wise than most of us about this issue.
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Exarchus
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Posted: 01-Jun-2005 at 13:25 |
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vote "no". It's not in Europe simply, though I have no fondamental
opposion about including them in the free trade zone or shengen once
the country will be in a similar shape to the western countries.
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Vae victis!
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aknc
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Posted: 01-Jun-2005 at 13:42 |
sorry,we're so blind that we don'T know that our country is not in Europe,actually,it'S located in africa
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"I am the scourage of god appointed to chastise you,since no one knows the remedy for your iniquity exept me.You are wicked,but I am more wicked than you,so be silent!"
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aknc
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Posted: 01-Jun-2005 at 13:43 |
we just hide it very well
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vulkan02
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Posted: 01-Jun-2005 at 14:16 |
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baracuda
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Posted: 01-Jun-2005 at 14:33 |
Originally posted by Spartakus
The spearhead of Turkish foreign policy are the F-16s. |
Thats a pretty juvenile view on the foreign policy.. by the way the new F-16's greece bought from Turkey..
Originally posted by Exarchus
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It's not in Europe simply, though I have no fondamental
opposion about including them in the free trade zone or shengen once the country will be in a similar shape to the western countries. |
EU, rejection will be to the most part reconcideration of the trade agreements with EU, meaning to say there will be much money lost on EU's behalf.. similar in shape.. sorry but you seem to have no idea of Turkey at all, it is more advanced and civilized than most european countries, with no military equal in EU to match strength..
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Kenaney
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Posted: 01-Jun-2005 at 14:35 |
Originally posted by aknc
we just hide it very well |
Akinci dont act like a child, grow up and you will see how dangerous it is to join to EU...
Turkey should unify the Turkic states around him, beginning wit Azerbaycan and so on so on...
so ill vote for NON !
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OUT OF LIMIT
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